Anderson Ed wrote:

Paul, I am greatly disappointed in your decision to remove all "Plugs
Up" material from your URL.  That is of course, your perogative being
the host of the list.  But, considering there are a number of "Plugs Up"
engines flying as compared to a number of things avocated on the web
that do not (as yet) exist, I am at a lost to understand your action.

Once you decide about what is-or is not - permitted,
from a technical viewpoint, then the value of this forum will decrease -
which I personally hate to see.  It was my understanding that agreement
was not a pre-requiste for being a member of this forum and exchanging
ideals, experience and view points was the objective. I strongly urge
you to reconsider or clearly convey why a you find a "Plugs Up" so
objectable that you would purge that material, but leave other stuff
which is even less proven.

Wish you would reconsider your action for the well being of this forum.

Ed Anderson

I am going to go with my gut on this Ed. I feel that alot of the
problems
that you have had and now your need to spend big bucks on your engine
are the result of your decision to go with plugs up. The tragedy is you
had no real reason to do so. You were under the false impression that
the engine was lower from e-shaft to plug tips. Once the alternator is
moved and the water pump neck is cut down this is not the case. 
In fact for an RV this is not necessary at all as Tracy has so well
proven.

Also once a proper plugs up pan is constructed the plugs up engine
consumes 
more volume under tha cowl. IMHO The so-called advantage of the exhaust
pipes
coming out the bottom of the engine is not worth the headaches. In fact
it
is a disadvantage as heat radiation from the exhaust pipes finds it way
into
the now adjacent plugs up oil pan unless extensive shielding is
provided. 

Be that as it may I am not going to allow people to propose things
on here that I feel with my thirty  five years of engineering 
experience are bad engineering practice without comment. 

BTW Ed I am not "not - permitted," you from doing anything.
I am just not going to publish what I feel is bad engineering advice. 

Also if you want to do something bad you can still be a "member of this
forum".
In fact we will still discuss what you do. I just won't put it on
the ACRE NL web site for the casual browser to take it out of context as
a recommended way of doing things.

Paul Lamar
 
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