Vance Jaqua wrote:
fixed pitch 70X78 const spd var gear
mph rpm bhp f lbs eff f lbs eff f lbs eff
0 1940 108 407 0 603 0 525 0
30 1950 109 393 28 530 26 505 25
60 1960 110 353 51 480 50 460 47
90 2080 118 327 66 425 63 420 62
120 2400 130 307 76 366 73 365 73
160 2500 149 283 81 299 80 299 80
190 2720 160 268 83 268 83 268 83
Vance why would your fixed pitch and constant speed
props have about the
same eff. at 30, 60 and 90 MPH? I think you are off
here.
I think you are way off. I think you forgot to
increase the eff.
for the constant speed prop. Put a HP column in
there for the constant
speed prop.
Let us define our terms here.
Theory thrust is = HP * 550/FPS.
Prop eff is = actual thrust/ theory thrust
Paul Lamar
Paul - What I am trying to stress is that constant
speed props are not more "efficient" than fixed pitch
props. Horsepower for both the constant speed and the
variable gear box is 160 over the entire range - they
let you operate the engine at full power, and that is
where they get more thrust - NOT with better
efficiency . Efficiency is output power - thrust times
speed versus shaft INPUT power at that point - not
rated power - Vance
With two people in my 182 and a full fuel weight of 2600 pounds
I can almost slide the main tires at low pitch and full throttle
with the brakes locked up.
Figuring only 50% of 2600 pounds on the mains and a coeff of friction of 0.8
that is over a thousand pounds of thrust.
A prop is just like a wing as it has a best angle of attack for the lowest lift
to drag ratio. In a prop the best lift to drag ratio gives the best
ratio of HP out over HP in or prop efficiency.
Fixed pitch props operate on the back side of the lift to drag curve until they get
to cruse speed. If you add power with a gear box you merely move further
up on the back side of the lift to drag curve. Yes.. you will get a little more
thrust but
you will dissipate an inordinate amount of additional HP generating a monster vortex.
This will merely heat the air dissipating that additional HP.
Constant speed props on the other hand are always changing their angle of attack to
optimize the lift to drag ratio for the forward speed of the aircraft.
I will agree the max efficiency is the same for both props.
Paul Lamar
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