Subject: Turbo oil drain
From: Paul
Date: 8/30/2000, 6:27 PM

Ernesto Sanchez wrote:

Moroso has oil scavenge pumps.  Maybe something like that would work.
Ernesto


Chris Gentry wrote:

I am starting to plumb the oil to and from the T04 turbo.  The turbo
oil
outlet is
below the normal return hole of the engine case. The turbo drain hole
is
about 1
inch above the full oil level.  Please comment on the following
options I
may
choose to get adequate drainage:
1) Use a fuel pump to scavenge to the original turbo oil return hole
in
the case.
Which fuel pump?

Good question Chris. Maybe Chuck can answer. As I recall he is using
fuel
pump to scavenge the turbo oil. Chuck?

2) Fabricate a drain barb into the top (near the pan bolts) of the
oil
pan.  This
may mean I would have to keep the oil level slightly lower than full.
With this
option should I run a 1/2 quart low or extend (horizontally) the oil
pan
capacity
or add another small  oil cooler and always run 1/2 quart low.  (I'm
using the
stock RX-7 oil cooler.)

Does not sound like a very good plan.

3) A better idea that you might suggest.

Related question:  The normal oil source for the stock turbo appears
to
have gone
through the engine and then goes to the turbo which means it is
already
very hot
oil.  My T04 is not water cooled so I would rather lubricate the
turbo
with cooler
oil.  Any suggestions on how I could safely do this?

Regards, Chris Gentry
                Glasair Turbo Rotary
                 Dragonfly Turbo Subaru
                  Grumman Cheetah

A "T" in the oil return line from the oil cooler? Are you using a
metric to AN adapter where the oil cooler line goes into the block?
See picture with red arrow. Banjo fitting shown.

Paul Lamar

tommayer wrote:

Paul, Chris,
    I went through this when I blew my Lycoming.`
    If you can possibly arrange to do so, mount the turbo high and drain
the
oil back into the case via gravity.
    Make sure the oil from the turbo enters the pan ABOVE the oil level
in
the sump.
    The turbo oil will be frothy, so it is a good idea to use big tubes
or
hoses and perhaps make small tank for it to settle down in on the return
journey.
    I found the best aircraft set up to copy for simplicity is the
Navajo
Chieftan, in terms of turbo placement and turbo oil return.  Aircraft
scavenge pumps are almost the most expensive part of the system, and I
would
be scared to fool around with an unproven pump in this usage.

    On the Lycoming I took oil from where the filter usually goes and
sent
it to the turbo.  No problem with too hot oil.  Maybe the rotary is so
hot
you should do it differently.
 Use lots of slip joints in the exhaust or you will get cracks.
Tom Mayer


Ernesto Sanchez wrote:

Moroso has oil scavenge pumps.  Maybe something like that would work.
Ernesto


Yes they do. Expensive. Here are some on Racing Beats 900 HP turbo three
rotor. Note the over size water pump above the black scavenge pumps. 

Paul Lamar
 
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