Herb Sanders wrote:

Paul, It may be of interest to some of our guys that some other forums
limit one side of the auto engine issue and only publish what agrees
with their opinion. Thanks for running an open forum where alternate
opinions are accepted and most all posts show respect for others. If you
are doing much editing, it is not obvious.    Regards, Herb

I have certain people trained :-)

Herb attached the message below.

Paul Lamar


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Subject:        Censoring messages
   Date:        Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:26:51 -0500
  From:        Herb Sanders <hsanders@bellsouth.net>
    To:        "canard-aviators@canard.com" <canard-aviators@canard.com>, calist <calist@kgarden.com>

Moderators Bob and Wayne, I wrote a respectful but dissenting message
regarding certificated engines and you failed to post it. I would
appreciate it if you would post that message and this one - then if you
think I am outside the limits, you can just take me off the list. I am
not so much concerned about the engine content, but the fact that you
appear to only post replys that agree with your opinion. If you have the
only correct opinion, maybe you should just write a book on what we all
need to know instead of having a forum of many experiences.

Who runs a "certificated" engine, anyway? Most of the EZ guys I know run
modified cases, or higher compression, electronic ignitions, alternate
fuel delivery systems (Ellison units or fuel injection}, auto plugs,
non-certified starters & alternators, prop extentions, and on and on.
How about the non-cert "looks like Lyc" engines and components turned
out by ECI, and Superior?

I don't see how you can ignore the significant achievements of Charlie
and his Suburu EZ, the V8 Long that turns 225mph or so in the races,
Mike Bowdens twin EZ, the several flying Mazda 13Bs, and others. Most of
the bad ideas get dropped and die a natural death, or you can DEL and go
on. How many times have I read some simple question that most of us
figured out 20 years ago? I either answer or del and go on.

Its not as if I am uninformed about ezs. Having built a Vari in 78, Long
in 82, Long in 95, and developed many parts that helped the group, I
still enjoy the different things the new guys try. I got out of selling
part in 1984, but it is gratifying to go to a fly-in and see dozens of
slip joint exhaust systems, cowls, wheel pants, flush inlets, leading
edge fuel tanks, etc that I built. Many items have been picked up and
continued, or improved, by other vendors. Not all change is good, but we
can sort out the bad and use the good to improve on what we have now.

If I need ot join a "testy old guys" group, just let me know and I will
leave you alone.

Regards, Herb Sanders