Subject: This month mystery engine
From: Paul
Date: 10/29/2000, 5:03 PM
To: Aden <adenl@icenet.com.au>, adpiccioni <adpiccioni@cnx.net>, Al Gietzen <alventures@email.msn.com>, Alan Marr <alan@monito.com>, "Alfonso C. Fuller, Jr." <alfuller@webworldinc.com>, ALFRED B WERTZ <ABWERTZ@compuserve.com>, Allan Tolle <atolle@msn.com>, Andy Hecker <bawh@apci.net>, Archie Frangoudis <archie97@earthlink.net>, "B. Phillips" <bphillips@energy.com.au>, Bernie Forrest 2 <bernardj@linkt.com.au>, Bill Garrett <bgarrett2@fast.net>, Bill Schertz <Wschertz2@aol.com>, Bob Avon <bobavon@juno.com>, Bob Bush <PUCKERBUSH@aol.com>, Bob Darrah <BobDarrah@aol.com>, Boyd & Jeanie Tompson <Jtsam@gbso.net>, "Boyum, Patrick L." <Boyum.Patrick@mayo.edu>, Brian Trubee <Bktrub@aol.com>, " Bruce." <laserman@laserops.com>, Bulent Aliev <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>, Byron Brandon Ward <wardb@umich.edu>, Carl Turner <Bearhawker@aol.com>, Case Sinclair <sinkas@camtech.net.au>, "Castle, Ron" <ron.castle@lmco.com>, "Charles P. 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Smith" <JSmith@InformedAccess.com>, Jeremy Solomon 2 <jeremy.solomon4@gte.net>, Jim Brewer <alpha@concordnc.com>, Jim Dana <JDana2@aol.com>, Jim Moore <T58319@aol.com>, Jim Mosur <jmosur@interlog.com>, Jim West <jimest@uswest.net>, JJAndrich <JJAndrich@aol.com>, Jody Hadley <jodym@fidalgo.net>, John Beutler <Beutlej@aol.com>, John Larsen <jopatco@micron.net>, John McLaughlin <John@bird-in-a-box.com>, John Moran <mti@wesnet.com>, John Slade <rjslade@bellsouth.net>, John Wise <gte263i@prism.gatech.edu>, Jonathan Lauter Rotary Power Marine <JMLBlues@aol.com>, Karl Szczypta <karl_s@msn.com>, "Keith A. Moore" <moorek@cmtc.com>, Ken Gillanders <drkengill@netzero.net>, Ken Powell <Ken.Powell@alltel.com>, Kurt & Kelly Johnson <compair6@hotmail.com>, Lance Warren <lance@3rotor.com>, Larry McKee <lmckee@cnetech.com>, Leo Brandt <LBrandt105@aol.com>, Lindsey Pelletier <Lindsey.Pelletier@Home.Com>, Lloyd S <llsplane@aol.com>, Lonnie and Raquel Wood 2 <lonwood@email.msn.com>, Marc <MAR34807@aol.com>, marc mularz <mularzm@hotmail.com>, Mark Steitle <msteitle@mail.utexas.edu>, Mark Wrathall <WrathallM@LAUDAAIR.COM>, Martin Orro <martin@orro.net>, Matt Cosman <mcosman@uswest.net>, Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com>, Mike Perry <MKPerry99@aol.com>, Mike Pienaar <mpienaar@rssc.co.sz>, Mike Wills <willsm@manta.spawar.navy.mil>, "Pat Franklin BEE\"S Inc.\"" <beesinc@gte.net>, Patrick Hicks <phicks@wcnet.org>, Paul Lamar <rotaryeng@earthlink.net>, Perry Casson <pcasson@northwoodgeo.com>, Perry Mick <perrym@teleport.com>, Peter Beddows 3 <pete.rv613b@ntlworld.com>, Peter Cowan/Lexi Cameron <cowcam@pipcom.com>, Peter Johnson <pjohnson@voyageur.ca>, Peter Laurence <plaurenc@bellsouth.net>, Phil Williamson <philw@spiritone.com>, Pier Ferro <Pier.Ferro@zanet.co.za>, Pine Pienaar <pine@CPro.co.za>, Ray Fiset Marcotte <rayfiset@globetrotter.net>, "Raymond L. Cole" <rlcole@fedex.com>, Richard Ramsey <lists@paveaway.com>, Richard Rothrock <rothrock@vista-control.com>, Richard White <white@babbage.csee.usf.edu>, RJF Home <falkiner@interlog.com>, Robert Dufresne <robertdufresne@videotron.ca>, "Robert G. Gaddy" <zippydogg@aol.com>, Roger Enns <renns@kw.igs.net>, Roger Robertson <rrrob@arn.net>, "Rogers, Bob J." <BRogers@FDIC.gov>, Roland Houin <rhouin@fourway.net>, Romulo Augusto <romulojr@brhs.com.br>, Ron Lisberg <rlisberg@gte.net>, Ron Slabach <Xanthius@aol.com>, "Rosine, Steve" <steve.rosine@nv.de.ittind.com>, Russell Kent <r-kent@ti.com>, "Russell W. Nance" <rnance@conterra.com>, Scott Burger 2 <hbarca@hotmail.com>, " Shawn D. Jones" <topology@kscable.com>, Stephen Opgenorth <steveo@vistainfo.com>, Steve Cottrell <reaperv@bigpond.com>, Steve Thomas <steve@stevet.net>, Terry Adams 2 <terrybuild@2xtreme.net>, Todd Carrico <tcarrico@airmail.net>, Tom Jelly <jelkil@interaccess.com>, tom mayer <tommayer@roadrunner.com>, Tom Parkes 2 <tparkes@earthlink.net>, Tom Sivic <TSivic@aol.com>, Tony Cesarone <dhawk@execpc.com>, "Tracy 2 rws@altavista.net" <rws@altavista.net>, Vaughn Mann <vlmann@Highland.Net>, Victor Hahn <jdeming@worldnet.att.net>, Vince Hearn <VMAZDA@aol.com>, Vince Welch <vwelch@knownet.net>, "virgil n. salisbury" <virgnvs@juno.com>, Vladislav Oleynik <vladole@hillweb.com>, Walter Williams 2 <waltergw75@netzero.net>, Wayne Walter Peterson <berkut34@wi.net>, William Adkins <bilijo@erols.com>, Yvon Cournoyer 2 <geryvon@videotron.ca>, John Andrich <jjandrich@aol.com>, Glenn Crowder <gcrowder@worldnet.att.net>, "Jim D. Eggers" <RV877W@aol.com>, Chuck Brantley <brantleyc@lvcm.com>, "Tom Koftinoff's" <tomkoft@cancom.net>, KK <meekskbk@cyberhighway.net>, Doug Fellow <LAfellow@aol.com>, Richard Sohn <unicorn@aic-fl.com>, Jeff Spitzer <Roadable@aol.com>, "Kurt A. Schumacher" <Kurt.Schumacher@schumi.ch>, George Lendich <lendich@hypermax.net.au>, Bob Earley <bearley@eudoramail.com>, KEVIN QUIRK <quirk.kevin.ka@bhp.com.au>, Harry Sheldon <harry@cobweb.com.au>, terry s wilson <tswilson@uswest.net>, Larry Wiechman <wiechman@inwave.com>, Jim and Lucy <jpollard@mnsi.net>, Richard John Rocks <jrocks@ozemail.com.au>, Doug and Patty <pamac@info-link.net>, George Elliott <gelliott@igs.net>, Roy Eichendorf <reichen.stbrieux@sk.sympatico.ca>, Sam &Doraine <spdpd@email.msn.com>, Mike Arndt <dog@vif.com>, DENIS SMITH <denispsmith@yahoo.com>, Patricia & Bradley Sievert <patbrad@mwci.net>, Bill Eck <billeck@midsouth.rr.com>, Bruce Turrentine <BruceTurrentine@aol.com>, TOM PITTENDREIGH <tompittendreigh@excelonline.com>, Mark Curley <mcurley@cass.net>, " Sargent, Christopher COL SARGENTC" <SARGENTC@LEAVENWORTH.ARMY.MIL>, Militch <Militch@aol.com>, Dale Smith <timepilot@earthlink.net>, carlos moto <notomoto@hotmail.com>, Robert Moore <robm440@hotmail.com>, Hennie van Rooyen <mwhvr@iafrica.com>, Vince Robertson <Vandbrobertson@cs.com>, Scott Gettings <sgettings@cfl.rr.com>, david rideout <howard48@hotmail.com>, Kelvin Gurney <kgurney@wildak.net>, Eric Whiteside <erwhites@bellsouth.net>, "W.L. Monroe" <wlmonroe@bv.net>, Bob Moore <bobmore@gte.net>, "The Taylor's" <686012@ican.net>, Klaus Melchinger <klaus.melchinger@daimlerchrysler.com>, Barrie Walker <barriewalker@Home.Com>, Dean Van Winkle <dvanwinkle@royell.net>, Tom Kimsey <KIMSEYCO@aol.com>, Jim Holm <worldsource@worldnet.att.net>, valentin alfonso <vgalfonso@hotmail.com>, Peter Nunn <peter.nunn@bigpond.com>, Norm 3 Tanner <TANNERNL@aol.com>, Arthur Luther <artscustom@hotmail.com>, R c <canardflyer@hotmail.com>, William Shaffer <wpshaffer@uswest.net>, David Klein <dklein@bendcable.com>, bill martin <bill@laguna.com.mx>, Matthew Tait 2 <mtait@voyager.net>, Luis Trimino <beengaly@hotmail.com>, Brian Fanning <BF27621@aol.com>, David Morris <dmrh@3rotor.com>, Fred Breeze <Brecab@bellsouth.net>, Blake Mantel <BMantel@snet.net>, Jean Fouche <JeanF@automakers.com>, Robert Barnard <barnard_rob@hotmail.com>, Andrew Larkin3 <larkin@columbusgroup.com>, Frank Davis <ffdavis@earthlink.net>, Jim R <rxheaven@pacbell.net>, Hank Bahahud <Bahahud@aol.com>, Barry Gardner <bcgardner@flashcom.net>, "Hanover, Lynn E" <lehanover@aol.com>, Ian Beadle <beadle.ian@abc.net.au>, Harley Dixon2 <HDIXON@worldshare.net>, Scott Speirer <sspeirer@sprynet.com>, "Kevin R. Walsh" <krwalsh@yahoo.com>, Lars Nelson <larsnelson@netzero.net>, bhester <bhester@netmcr.com>, Karlis Bets <bets@anet.lv>, Power Sport Keith Holm <keith@powersportaviation.com>, John Schosanski <COZYBLDR@prodigy.net>, "Alfonso J. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lebr=F3n=2DBerg=E9s?=" <allebron1@earthlink.net>, dan stanzione <dfstanzione@yahoo.com>, David VanOverstraeten <David-van@Home.Com>, John Bullers <midwestinfo@yahoo.com>, Pick Shovel <Picknshovel@aol.com>, Dave Sloan <dave@cmdsaz.com>, Vance Jaqua <vjaqua@earthlink.net>, Chris Gentry <cgentry@ivic.net>, David Doshay <ddoshay@pacbell.net>, Marc Pedings <mpedings@bellsouth.net>, Danny Petersen <PKCONSTRUCT@aol.com>, Bruce Mayfield <bmayfiel@hotmail.com>, Herbert Boks <herbert@datamax.nl>, victor delta <vdelta@pacbell.net>, Ray Richardson <ray@powersportaviation.com>, J Moore <rotary@alltel.net>, Rickay Mini 500 <Rickay@aol.com>, cameraman <cameraman@xtra.co.nz>, Leslie Huttunen <lesliemh@earthlink.net>, Adam Molny <amolny@specdata.com>, "Beeker Martin (UO/EAT1)" <mbeeker@mediaone.net>, Rino Lacombe <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>, Claude Geles <Claude.Geles@EET.CERN.CH>, James Phillips <jphilrv6@earthlink.net>, jim christian <christjs@clear.lakes.com>, Bill Freeman <bfreeman@qni.com>, x-Robin Ream <robinream@earthlink.net>, William Paris <wparis@bigplanet.com>, Douglas Hayes <dohayes@juno.com>, Rob Hammond <FC3S88RX7@aol.com>, Doug Gould <dgould@primus.com.au>, Doug 5 <DLOMHEIM@aol.com>, Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>, Don Tauer <dtauer@cswnet.com>, Barnhart <dsbarno@vbe.com>, Mike Carter <spacefrontier@yahoo.com>, Steve 8 <N51SK@aol.com>, Ron Morrison <rmrrisn@flash.net>, Thomas Galles <flyer005@hotmail.com>, paul roy <paul_roy2000@hotmail.com>, Eliot Mason <write_eliot@charter.net>, Frank van der Hulst <frankv@whanganui.ac.nz>, Hans Conser <conser@mtnconnect.net>, James Russell <fshort@flash.net>, kenburch <kenburch@bellsouth.net>, Markus Feyerabend <wingman@talknet.de>, Rob Hambleton <azlan@futureone.com>, Cliff Manzke <cmanzke@Home.Com>, John Bullens <jbullens@juno.com>, Kayberg <Kayberg@aol.com>, "Tami, John E" <John.Tami@West.Boeing.com>, Lorin Thomason <lorin.t@mindspring.com>, Earl Webster <type14elite@Home.Com>


Paul wrote:

Vance told me he inadvertently erased this picture and he would
like another shot at it. Virg is the only one that took a guess
as an OX5 and that was incorrect. I think we need a prize for this
to give people a little incentive.

Paul Lamar

vance wrote:

OK! - So I cheated - I went to my library - the engine in question is
the Pratt and Whitney R-2060, 20 cylinders in 5 banks which began
testing in 1931 (Gunston's "The Development of Piston Aero Engines"
photo on page 135). The single overhead cam layout was indeed inspired
by the Hisso. I thought at the time it was a strange arrangement for a
V-8 in that the two banks were not mirrored as is usual in a Vee layout.
The oversized case with the wide spacing was probably prompted by the
rather complex crank system which probably employed master rod
configurations like radials.
Interesting side note - the free piston engine was indeed intended for
an aircraft (the airplane that became the B-36) it was the gas generator
for the PT-1 the turbine worked OK but the gas generator not so good'
Vance

You were narrowly aced out by Bill Freeman Vance :-)

Paul Lamar
 
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