Subject:          Re: EPA/CARB & OBD II
     Date:          Wed, 12 May 1999 11:13:35 -0700
     From:          "Allen Lyons" <alyons@arb.ca.gov>
       To:          Paul <rotaryeng@earthlink.net>

Allen Lyons wrote:

 You are right that there are more pre-OBD II cars on the road.
However, your previous notes imply that vehicles were easily diagnosed
and repaired
until OBD II came along and messed everything up.  Fuel injection and
other computer controlled functions came along well before OBD II.
Without OBD
II, except what manufacturers felt like giving out, you would not have
any information from the on-board computer, and without federal and
California
service information requirements, you would not have any access to
service information and tools.

We are learning how to deal with the "new computer
age".  Could you have found your air/fuel ratio problem without OBD?
Would you know that it existed?  Could you buy a tool that gives you all
the information you sent me a while back without ARB's requirements for
standardized diagnostic information?  Everything you sent me are data
parameters whose generic access is specifically required by the OBD II
regulation.

Why are we the bad guys when we have been working to mandate more
diagnostics, information, and tools for the aftermarket?  These are the
very things you want.  Is it just because we haven't gotten to
everything
that you think should be done?  Why is the criticism towards us so
harsh?

Paul Lamar Wrote:
I see your point Allen. If it was up to the EPA/CARB the internal
combustion engine would always and forever put out zero emissions,
always be perfect and damn the cost to the car owner. Cars ran
fine without and before OBD II.

The EPA/CARB would be entirely happy if no one could afford a car
and they had to take public transportation in stinking diesel buses
that emit carcinogenic particulates and be subject to muggings and
rapes and have to sit in other people's crap.

The car keeps us safe and clean from the filty urban world out there.

The EPA/CARB would also love it if everybody had to walk to work
or ride a bicycle.

In fact the EPA/CARB resents the freedom and anarchy that people enjoy
by owning a car. The EPA/CARB also resent the fact that some can buy
better cars than others and that cars can be used as status symbols
to indicate that some people are perhaps better or more wealthy
than others.

Does this sound like the EPA/CARB want communism?

Do you see a little conflict in the implementation of the EPA/CARB
goals here?

The failure of the modern electric car stands as a monument to
the stupidity of the EPA/CARB.

All other possible solutions to the air pollution problem have been
cast aside such as population density control through zoning laws in favor of
focusing all efforts on the evil passenger car as the passenger car
owners are not politically well organized.

As far as population density control is concerned the EPA/CARB
would like it if everybody lived and worked in one huge high rise
skyscrapper and owned no cars to drive to the pristine and deserted
mountains and sea shores. Sounds like communistic idealism to me.

In my humble opinion the EPA/CARB have far too much autonomous power
and are almost as bad as the IRS. Perhaps the EPA/CARB just have an
image problem.

Not to worry Allen. I don't really expect to change the EPA/CARB
from within. I think political pressure is more likely to work.

Paul Lamar

Now the Federal/State Government want to hook all of us up to their computer on-line/real-time.
George Orwell in 2001. He was just a bit ahead of his time. It is time to nip 
this OBD III nonsense in the bud. The following is a SAE conference in Detroit 
on March 5-8 2001 Cobo Center. I will be there to protest OBD III with my signs.

Paul Lamar
 
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