Perry Mick wrote:

While we got EAA on the line here, and the subject of 100LL came
up, I would like to know when we are going to see 82UL?  I'm
looking forward to this being available everywhere someday.
Seems noone is producing it yet, after several years now.
It's still very hard to find mogas and 80 when planning flights.
(I prefer unleaded because of the oxy sensor, even though the
oxy sensor is not necessary).
--
Perry J. Mick
Duckt N7XR
http://www.ductedfan.com

Mike DiFrisco wrote:

Paul,

Here's the response from Earl Lawrence, EAA's VP of Government Relations:

82 UL is currently available to anyone who wants to sell it.
82UL does not have to be produced because 82 UL is EXACTLY the same as 80%
of the regular autogas made in the US.
The additives that are prohibited in 82UL, that are in regular autogas, are
added to the delivery truck so the fuel as it sits at your local gasoline
distributor is likely to meet the 82 UL specification.  82 UL does require a
purple dye to be added for identification purposes.  The local gasoline
distributor in the Oshkosh area will deliver 82UL to anyone who is willing
to order 20,000 gallons of it.

The issue is no one wants to sell it.

The marketers of 100LL currently are barely selling enough 100LL gasoline to
make [it] worth their effort.  If 82UL was actively marketed the drop in demand
for 100LL would be such that the price for 100LL would have to go up
significantly which lowers the demand which makes the price go up.  This
would hit the FBO's biggest and best customers the most the charters
operations, Cessna 210's, Mooney's etc.  Also most FBO's are not interested
in having another fuel tank.  If you want to get 82UL you will need to get
some of your local FBO's to go in together and order 20,000 gallons of the
stuff.  That's only 2,222 hours of flying at 9 gallons an hour (or 45
aircraft flying 50 hours) and most distributors will not require the buyer
to take delivery of all of it at once.  If enough aircraft owners ask for it
your FBO will be likely to carry it.  The wholesale cost of 82UL should be
at least 50 cents less than that of 100LL so you should expect to pay at
least 50 cents a gallon less for 82UL than for 100LL.  Remember all the
normal taxes and flowage fees will be added to 82UL just as they are added
to 100LL.

If you want to order some 82UL you will need to ask your fuel distributor
for ASTM 6227 gasoline.  ASTM 6227 is the specification for 82UL and your
distributor should have or know how to get a copy and ensure his fuel meets
the specification.  Also remember all aircraft which hold an EAA Autogas STC
are also approved to use 82UL.

Earl Lawrence
EAA

Thanks Mike. I just bought a new engine for my C182 that uses 100LL only so
I don't want to see it disappear.

Paul Lamar
 
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