Subject: nucleate boiling
From: ACRE NL
Date: 8/14/2001, 8:56 PM


I don't have Heisler's "Advanced Engine Technology".  I think I
mis-understood how he
was using the term "nucleate boiling".  I believed this term to describe
the heat
transfer mechanism whereby small amounts of coolant at the metal surface
flash into
vapor, then depart the surface and quickly re-condense in the coolant.
Given that they
quickly re-condense, how can they migrate to the high point of the engine
and form a
steam pocket?  Re-reading Heisler, I see that he uses "nucleate boiling"
all the way to
film boiling.  I guess his definition is correct: nucleation sites are
still involved
the whole way to film boiling.

But there are two distinct sub-phases to nucleate boiling, divided
vaguely where the
vapor re-condenses rapidly after departing the surface (before), and
where the vapor
remains a bubble long after departing the surface (after).  We want the
former since
enormous amounts of heat energy are transferred (i.e. high cooling system
efficiency);
we want to stay away from the latter, as it allows steam pockets to form,
which are just
as bad as stable films (very bad) because they allow localized hot spots
to occur.

BTW, have you seen this paper about adding soap to coolant?
http://www-heat.uta.edu/publications/1995c3.html

Russell Kent

That is probably what Water Wetter is :-)

Paul Lamar

 The way I understood nucleate boiling was that the vapor bubble condensed
rapidly in the coolant, and said so in my post.  This whole discussion has
clarified this continuum of behavior for me, and I hope for others.

Bill Freeman

 
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