Subject: using aluminum brazing/solding to tack weld beforeTIGwelding?
From: ACRE NL
Date: 11/5/2001, 9:08 AM


"Bruce A. Frank" wrote:

The low temp soldering/brazing filler rod is not compatible
with the
TIG
welding process. That "solder" is not really aluminum and
boils out
when
one tries to weld over it. If you can tack weld with that
stuff then
why
not weld up the whole manifold with that process? In my
experience
it is
strong enough. There are also flux coated oxy/acet aluminum
welding
rods
that will do a perfectly adequate, though not pretty, job.

Bruce A. Frank

Perry if you don't want to do this. I will tig tack weld it for
you and
then you can give it to Bruce to be welded or I can give it to my
local
tig welder.
You will then need to pay my welder. I am not good enough yet to
do a
good
overall job. Bruce does a better job than my local tig welder.

Are you willing to weld it Bruce, after it is tig tacked
together? We
have
quite a few of these intake manifolds to make.

Plan B. Get Mike Wills welder to do another one.

Paul Lamar


Yes, I would be willing to weld 'em up.

Bruce A. Frank


Thanks for all the info and the offers to help.  Being located up in
the
Canada makes sending this thing down to the 'states to get welded
would more
pain than it's worth.  I'll resort to plan "C" and build a jig today
to hold
everything where it's supposed to be and get a local shop to weld it.

Perry Casson


That sounds like the best plan Perry.

Paul Lamar

OK guys,
Please educate me as to why an intake manifold cannot be brazed.

You got me. It probably can be. Might not be as strong but is sounds
like it is worth a try.

Paul Lamar


Actually if you use the right alloys and rod, brazing can be very strong. A
lot of race car space frames are brazed together. The joints are stronger
than the base metal. I'm not sure what the fatigue characteristics would be,
but unless your intake is horribly designed, it should not be a structural
part anyway. Brazing should work fine, but it would be heavier than a
regular aluminum intake.

Monty


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