Subject: Mobil One
From: ACRE NL
Date: 1/9/2002, 11:58 PM


* > I have been using Mobile One 15-50 in the cars and the guy
said a
possible
reason for my oil pressure to take 30 seconds or so to come
up
ironically is;
the oil is too viscous at 65 degrees F! He suggested the 5-40.
I think
perhaps
it is
where Ford located the oil pump in the modular V8. On the
cranks nose,
up out
of the oil level. As you might note the Chevy small block V8
had the
oil pump down in the pan submerged in oil all of the time.

Paul Lamar

Paul, that's why I sent you the little gear pump, so you can
make yourself
a
pre-luber.
Bulent


Nah I am just going to sell the Mercury lemon. Real shame. I like
the way it
rides and handles. Robin and I are waiting for the RX8. In the
mean time we also need a Honda mini van. The Dodge was way too
maintenance
intensive.

Paul Lamar


* I've been running Mobil 1 in every Car/Truck/SUV/MiniVan/Sport
Bike since
1977 when I read the Popular Science article and subsequent tear
down of 2
Lincoln's after 25K.  Back then they advertised 25K or 1 yr
between changes.
I go 10-15K myself....most of my mileage is 70 miles a day on the
freeway.
They probably changed the recommendation to make more $$$ and
because people
didn't believe it! My '99 Passat (made in Germany) has a 7500K
interval in
Europe, they tried that at first here, but Americans are brain
washed. So it
got bumped back down here, and that's for Dino oil. I think VW
knows
something about their engines, they offer a 10yr/100K warranty on
everything
including the Turbo. They are also adamant about NOT doing your
first change
until 5K. The Engines are pre-flushed at the factory, then filled
with an
spec lube that aids in Piston ring setting, thus protecting their
10yr/100K
warranty. Must work too, as I know many with my same 1.8T 150HP
(stock)
engine pumping out 350+ with Turbo/Exhaust upgrades....and they
live just
fine. (used now in Passat's, Beetle's, Jetta's, Audi A4 and TT's
(in TT's
225HP!).
* Aircraft service of course is something different. Be curious to
hear from
Mobil, and Racing Beat (Racing Beat was one of the Syn Lube
Pioneers...all
their Racing Rotaries in the '80s used Amsoil.......)
* JET

        AMSOIL was the FIRST and ONLY 25000 Mile
or ONE YEAR oil change, Virg


Sorry Virg, look for a circa '77 Popular Science Mag......and the ads from
that period. (May have some, got some old R&T/C&D from around '80, maybe not
old enough.) To take Mobil at their word, they subjected two Lincoln
Continentals to the test, one with normal oil and regular oil changes. The
other with Mobil 1 and 25K changes. At 100K they tore the engines apart.
Dino was as expected, black deposits, grudge, and normal wear. The Mobil 1
engine was clean and shiny! No deposits, and measurements of wear items
where within new part specs. (Supposedly according to the mag.) In 1984 Hot
Rod Mag ran a Dyno test with a '84 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe (2.3L
4cylinder). They reported a 8hp gain from friction loss on the Dyno. As well
as lower temps. Personal experience...in '77 myself and 3 other buds all
bought the same bike...Yamaha RD400's (2 cylinder 2 stroke sport bike) All
were very close in speed of course. (I was 18!) One guy put Expansion
Chambers on his, and was naturally faster. I tried Mobil 1 in mine, and
gained 600rpm in 6th, and was as fast as his. (His mixture I'm sure was not
optimum)  In short order the wet clutch started slipping. Changed to a
Barnett with stiffer springs and never had it happen again. I also used it
in my '79 Honda CBX (1047cc 6 cylinder Sport Bike) that I modded with things
like Nitrous injection, 6 megaphones, and more. 200HP on the juice. Never a
problem. (Until it was stolen!)
Spin Tales? I can't speak for the Mags, but I know what I experienced.
Cheers!
JET


 
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