Barnhart wrote:
Real pilots don't need no stinking flaps. For fun, find some
Cessna/beech pilot, take him up in a cub or biplane, and throw it in
a
serious slip and watch his face.
Paul is right, good practice for when the electrics go out.
Barny
I learned to fly in a Schwitzer 2-32 glider. Spoilers are used to
control
rate of decent and sometimes they are not enough. Slips are required
at
times, plus slips are just plain FUN. BTHW I would like to use slips
more
often in a C150, but they are not approved with full flaps. Most of
the time
I use full flaps, so no slips most of the time.
Monty
Do it anyway Monty at altitude so you can become familiar with how it
behaves. The 172 bucks a bit more with full flaps than the 182. Never
tried it in a 150.
Paul Lamar
Monty must have one of those "modern" C150s. All mine have 40 deg
flaps, which is really nice when you are trying to get into a very short
field. (Guess how I know) But not quite so nice if you attempt a
go-around with full flaps (40deg). The pitch up is amazing with full
power! So if 'full flaps' is 30 deg, like the later C150s, I agree -
use 'em.
For the 40 deg models, reserve the last 10 deg for when you are sure
you really want it, cause the thing will barely climb with 40 deg flaps
and the pitchup from trimmed/idle/60 mph to full power is impressive.
Apparently the huge flaps can blank the tail in a slip, leading to
exciting things happening too close to the ground.
Bill
Long EZ builder & pilot
BSME, MSME
EAA Technical Counselor
Bill,
I'm flying an older 150 with the 40 degree barn door flaps. Standard
procedure is to use 15 degrees until I am sure I want to land, then flip the
switch all the way down. I have practiced go arounds with full flaps. I
agree, If you aren't careful you can easily get behind the power curve. The
other problem is people doing this and entering a departure stall on a go
around because of the pitch up you mentioned (It is rather dramatic, for fun
try it with the plane trimed for climb sometime 8-0). Yet another problem is
completely retracting the flaps and falling out of the sky, because you are
too slow. To avoid these scenarios, I firewall the throttle, level the
plane and start milking the flaps up a little at a time. After the speed
comes up I start to climb out. I sure do like the steep approach with full
flaps. Short fields are fun too. You can come in with power a little above
stall with full flaps and really land short. I like slips, but for short
fields I think flaps are better, because your forward speed is reduced. The
problem with a 150 of course is you can easily land where you could never
take off again! Now if you put a nice rotary on the front with a variable
pitch prop :-)
Monty
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