Subject: slips
From: ACRE NL
Date: 1/14/2002, 2:06 AM


Barnhart wrote:

Real pilots don't need no stinking flaps.  For fun, find
some
Cessna/beech pilot, take him up in a cub or biplane, and throw
it in a
serious slip and watch his face.

Paul is right, good practice for when the electrics go
out.

Barny

I learned to fly in a Schwitzer 2-32 glider.  Spoilers are
used to
control
rate of decent and sometimes they are not enough. Slips are
required at
times,  plus slips are just plain FUN. BTHW I would like to
use
slips more
often in a C150, but they are not approved with full flaps.
Most
of the time
I use full flaps, so no slips most of the time.

Monty

Do it anyway Monty at altitude so you can become familiar with
how it
behaves. The 172 bucks a bit more with full flaps than the 182.
Never
tried it in a 150.

Paul Lamar


Monty must have one of those "modern" C150s.  All mine have 40
deg
flaps, which is really nice when you are trying to get into a
very short
field. (Guess how I know)   But not quite so nice if you attempt
a
go-around with full flaps (40deg).   The pitch up is amazing with
full
power!  So if 'full flaps' is 30 deg, like the later C150s, I
agree -
use 'em.
For the 40 deg models, reserve the last 10 deg for when you are
sure
you really want it, cause the thing will barely climb with 40 deg
flaps
and the pitchup from trimmed/idle/60 mph  to full power is
impressive.

Apparently the huge flaps can blank the tail in a slip, leading
to
exciting things happening too close to the ground.

Bill
Long EZ builder & pilot
BSME, MSME
EAA Technical Counselor


My instructor pointed this out to me: the 150 stall speed between 20
and
40 degrees of flaps is only *1* MPH!  And for that go-around, those
extra 20 degrees hurt enormously.  That's why he teaches everyone to
only use 20 degrees max.  I learned in a 172 but recently got checked
out in the 150; that's when I found out.  Makes perfect sense to me.
He
also said the 150 just barely will climb with 40 degrees of flaps; if
it
is near fully loaded, it won't climb at all!

AI Nut

All true, but sometimes you need the extra drag, like in an engine
failure
landing in a short field, and you need to drop in steeply to avoid an
overshoot.  My normal C150 landing use 20 deg, but I practice with
40 occasionally.

Bill
Long EZ builder & pilot
BSME, MSME
EAA Technical Counselor


 Its been some time since flying a 150,but doesn't the airspeed indicator
go out-off-wack when executing a full slip approach.

Patrick.

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