Subject: FWF kits
From: ACRE NL
Date: 2/20/2002, 11:30 AM


 To the group - keep up the good work!  Hopefully we can fill in the
gaps, and get the Mazda Rotary Engine to a point where builders can
really (REALLY!) purchase a reasonably priced, firewall-forward
solution
from competing vendors.  Capitalism is a Good Thing.  I'd set
target
price for a FWF solution to match that of, say, Van's, plus the
PSRU.


I dunno-     ~ $1000 for an engine mount,  ~$500 for a custom
radiator,
Exhaust ~ $1000, hoses~$1000, EFI and ignition computer   ~$800,  13B
freshly
overhauled $3000, various fittings, wires, mainifolds, throttle
bodies,
etc~$3000.  Redrive- $2000. Total of around $13,000 if you aren't
really
trying to squeeze a buck. How could that ever compete with a Lycoming
from
Van's for over $20,000?


Logistically it would be difficult to have a different mount for
different
types of aircraft, along with exhaust, cooling, etc. This  is what
makes
marketing a firewall forward package difficult. The first ones would
have to
be targeted at the most numerous kits sold. That makes Van's the most
lucrative market for fire wall forward kits.

Brian Trubee

That is funny Brian. I think you are exaggerating the prices of the
hoses and motor mounts a tiny bit. :-)>

Paul Lamar


I build O-320 engine mounts for the Tailwind.  These are exactly the
same as for the RV 6 series.   These mounts are more expensive than
other mounts because they incorporate the landing gear.   However,  I
can build these for $1024.00 and this INCLUDES THE GEAR LEGS.
Without the gear legs the price would be around $650.00.  Mounts that
do
not support the  landing gear would be  much less expensive.......
Jerry Hey

A universal engine mount is obviously not possible but a universal
fixture with different hard points is a possibility.    With this, an
enterprising fabricator building mounts for a variety of aircraft could
have enough business to justify the effort.

Engine thrust line might also be variable depending on radiator location
and aircraft type.     No reason (that I can see at this time)  a
variable thrust line could not  be built into the fixture as
well.            Jerry

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