Subject: eliminating the pressure controller valve
From: ACRE NL
Date: 3/19/2002, 11:18 AM


 > > > > You don't suppose doing away with the pressure control valve
caused
Chuck Harberts oil cooler to fail  and caused his in-flight
fire
do
you?

I'm quite certain that Chuck had made no such mod.  There were other
contributing factors, and since he had three oil coolers in series;
the
other two in the nose of the Velocity, I was guessing that the
pressure
in
the first (the one that ruptured) was running at or near whatever
the
bypass
relief is set for.

I was told (at some point) that the reason for the Oil
controller
valve
(which releases at around 150psi) was to provide a safety
release
should
the
oil cooler or filter be clogged and prevent those components
from
bursting
under the resulting high oil pressure.  The normal oil pressure
regulator is
for the routine regulation of oil pressure under normal
conditions.

Ed Anderson


We need to devise a pressure test where we can check the operation
of
that
valve. I think we can plug tap a front cover right where the
problem
O-ring
is normally located. Pump it up with a hand hydraulic pump through
the oil cooler outlet fitting on the front of the cover. Then
measure
the point where the spring releases the pressure increase.


Good idea.  I have asked three others what that bypass pressure is
and
got
three different answers; all of which were best guesses; and all
were
lower
than 150#.

And is it the same for a 20B and 13B?

Al Gietzen


Al,
On the 93+ FD engines that front housing bottom valve (called by Mazda
an Oil Pressure Control Valve) is set to relieve at 156 psi. The other
valve, called a Regulator Valve has a relief pressure of 110 psi (this
is the one mounted on the bottom corner of the rear housing, and lets
oil back into pan). The oil cooler valve relieves at a pressure
differential of 50 psi, and the oil filter is supposed to relieve at 14
psi differential.

You can find these values in your workshop manual in the lubrication
section. The 20B is anybody's guess. I have found NO ONE able to get a
20B workshop manual that is readable. (Hint to Australian and NZ
readers-got one?)
[Marc Wiese]

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