Subject: 2 cycle oil air cooled or water cooled?
From: ACRE NL
Date: 3/20/2002, 9:22 AM


Hi Paul,

    I see Tracy told you about his "Oil producing" engine.  He swore
me
to
secrecy as I am certain he though he would catch unmerciful ribbing
from
you
if he went on the list claiming his engine was producing oil {:>).
I
have
noticed my oil level never decreases and may even be slightly
increasing.  I
guess if you went long enough between oil changes you could get to
the
point
that the lubricating oil in the crankcase might get too diluted with
the
2
cycle oil to provide good protection.  But, at my rate of oil level
increase
oil change will come long before than happens. Another bonus point
for
the
rotary?{:>).

Ed

I would not worry too much about it. Regular motor oil has high
pressure
"secondary lubrication" additives mainly for rubbing wear such as cam
shafts,
lifters  and valve stems that are not needed in a rotary. Zinc and
phosphor come
to mind.  When burnt I suspect these are what cause most of the gunk
on
the rotors.

Paul Lamar


Paul, my Ross drive needs that secondary lubrication. Tip. motorcycle
oils
contain more phosphates than car oils for extreme pressure lubrication
Phosphates are bad news for catalytic converters in cars.
I am using Mobil 1 plus a teflon additive. My rotary does not 'produce
oil'
Happy flying
Ian RV6A Down under.


Good point Ian. I forgot about the gear box.

Paul Lamar


The "oil production" in my engine is a function of how much oil I put in the
fuel.  I had been slowly increasing the amount figuring it was just good
insurance.  When I got to around 6.5 - 7 oz per 5 gal. of fuel I could
notice the increase in oil level when I got to around the 35 hour mark.  By
70 hours (I change oil at 50 - 70 hour intervals) I was almost a quart over
full.  When I finally figured out what was happening I dropped back to 5 oz
per 5 gal. can of fuel.  At this rate I can barely see that the level is up
at oil change time.  Wouldn't have noticed it if I wasn't looking.

The main conclusion I came to was that 1 oz per gallon was the right mixture
to use.

I use Mobil 1 in the engine for the same reason Ian mentioned -  the gears
in the redrive are much happier with the better shear strength of synthetic
oil.  Good for the engine too.

Tracy Crook
tcrook@rotaryaviation.com
www.rotaryaviation.com

About  two years ago we did some 500 degree F bake test on different oils
and Mobil 1 came out tops on all auto engine oil we tested.

Paul Lamar
 
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