Subject: 2.85 drive
From: ACRE NL
Date: 9/21/2002, 3:58 AM


Snips...

This would be no problem at all if Tracy went to the 2.85:1 PSRU.
Prop rotates in right direction.

Paul Lamar


This would be a good point for me to get input on interest on the
2.85 : 1
drive.

It is now apparent that the RX-8 and the Renesis engine are actually
going
to arrive so I've moved ahead on plans for the 2.85 drive.   I
consider
this
the main reason for using the higher ratio.  I'll be ready to cut
metal on
the prototype after getting the next batch of 2.18 drives done.

Opinions vary on this but here is mine:  Unless you are swinging a
long
prop
(at least 75" or more) or plan to run your engine at 7000 rpm or
higher, I
still think the 2.18 : 1 drive is the best compromise.  This is
especially
true if your airplane is in the 200 mph or more range.  The only
exception
to this may be gyros or other low speed aircraft where very wide
chord or
multi-blade (4 or more) props can be used.

You don't have to commit to buy now but I'd like to get a reading on
how
much interest there is in this ratio.

Tracy Crook
tcrook@rotaryaviation.com
www.rotaryaviation.com


What ever turns you on Tracy :-)

IMHO the current engine can also benefit from the 2.85:1 ratio with
the current diameter props. There is nothing fundamentally different
about the structure of a  Renesis engine that somehow makes it
better for 7000 RPM. 9000 RPM no question about it...it's better!


I'm already on the list for Tracy's 2.85 (double check that Tracy).  My
13B
is rigged for those RPM, I figure a 6000 rpm cruise and 8500 full on
with a
three or four blade fixed pitch prop (LAEV when it's ready).  This
should
make for an easy 175 kias cruise in the RV-4 and 210-ish flat out.

Personally I like the idea of an easy cruise turning the prop at 1900
running 160 kts.

Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR
13B in gestation mode


Paul, is this engine giving us a 3 to 1 ratio?
Seems to be.
Royce

 Reduction gearboxes fitted as an integral part of Mid West rotary engines and
incorporating torsional dampers, allow the propeller to turn relatively slowly.
The reduction ratio of the twin-rotor GAE100R unit, for example, allows the
propeller to experience six power impulses per revolution. That sort of power from
a conventional direct-drive would require a twelve cylinder four-stroke engine to
achieve the same smoothness of delivery. Similarly the single rotor GAE50R can be
equated to a six cylinder, direct-drive engine. Any vibration which may be felt
from a Mid West engine can almost certainly be attributed to imbalance in the
propeller.

Sounds like it.

Paul Lamar
 
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