Since you asked, Devil's advocate here. P-)
After thinking about the no waste gate layout Greg used I've
developed
an
appreciation for it. This comes from some failure mode analysis
(strictly
armchair stuff). OTOH Continental Lycoming, et al, have went with
waste
gates most likely to reduce their liability, not increase it. The
round
engine drivers of old had to watch the MP and know what kind of
fuel
they
took on last so they could set the throttle properly for take off.
Flying
by MP was part of the job and from the perspective of this old
piston
(ahem) head, it keeps you in tune with your engine's performance.
You
may
have already considered the following.
Waste gate = added complexity and failure modes:
Does it fail open? That is if you are on takeoff at Leadville,
CO,
on a
hot August afternoon at full gross, will you get out of ground
effect
and
over the obstacles at the end of the runway?
Does it fail closed? If you are not in the habit of watching your
MP as
you firewall (nose cone wall??) the throttle while departing
Copper
Hill
International in the winter, will the engine survive?
Like I said, armchair analysis, I'm going NA 'cause a turbo won't
fit in
a
RV-4. P-)
Mike McGee
Control Systems Engineer
Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR
13B in gestation mode
Well, this is my take....
Most piston turbo'd engines have the oil pressure controlled
wastegates (usually controlled by a "differential controller" to
maintain a specific boost or sl pressure), spring loaded, AND a very
nice safety feature called a blowoff valve (to limit overboost). Most
tc cars also have "blow off valves". Most aircraft failures are due to
grit in the oil (sticks in the oil fed actuators, which is why you run
the oil to the stuff after the filter!) or lack of maintenance (mouse
milk on Wastegate every so often!). I'm still waiting for some
electronic genius besides the people at GAMI (who have done this
electronic boost control for piston engine certification as part of
their electronic knock protected fi/ign product!) to come up with an
appropriate set up having the same features that eliminate the oil
stuff and use the same components electronically (again like cars).
This group might have some able person do make such a product? Last I
heard that might be in the making. BTW, Gami's set up measures each
pistons internal rising pressure, and does not sense knock as noise!
What a novel thought. [Marc Wiese]
I'm sure I'm over simplifying the requirements but couldn't the
wastegate be controlled with a manifold pressure sensor in the intake
after the turbo and intercooler. This would give the pressure the engine
is seeing. This could control a solenoid that acts against a spring
loaded (to open)wastegate. I see the failure mode of the wastegate going
open but you would still have some power. [Stan Blanton]
The stock turbo waste gate is controlled by a manifold pressure sensor.
The trouble is it is 5 psi above ambient pressure which is not what
you want at high altitude. You want more boost or constant intake
manifold pressure at altitude to maintain constant power.
I like Russell's idea of controling the pressure and boost with the intake
manifold temp. That is the key to eliminate detonation and maximize
power under all conditions. About 130 F max is about right.
Paul Lamar
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