It takes more energy to make the hydrogen than you
get back by using it.
Except for the limited supply using hydro, wind and
photo.
Assuming of course you can solve the distribution
problems.
Things never discussed or addressed in the glowing
press releases.

Paul Lamar

C'mon Paul, it took more energy to make all the variations of petroleum
than we get back using it, as well. (Tracy: petroleum is a 'transfer'
medium just like hydrogen; it was just created before we were around to
see it happen.) The trick is to use the same 'inefficient' source to
create the hydrogen that was used to create the petroleum and to be sure
that the method of creation isn't polluting.

Talk is cheap. Just exactly how are you going to pull that off?
Are you going to use solar cells in your back yard to disassociate
water into hydrogen and oxygen. We WERE going to have complete
solar houses self sufficient in energy use too. Where are they now? 
Why are they not universal? After all.. free energy from the sun.
Right?  Dream on :)

While we all might bemoan the tree huggers' and EPA's insane actions at
times, it doesn't make sense to write off the goals.  Just ask the folks
in Cleveland OH what they thought about having a river flowing through
their town that literally caught fire.

For those too young to remember,

http://www.amrivers.org/pressrelease/presscuyahoga6.21.99.htm

and

http://www.epa.gov/glnpo/aoc/cuyahoga.html

Charlie England

Enough of this thread. Emotional belief systems are impossible to
over come. Once and idea takes hold the logic and reason switch is 
turned off in the brain.

Paul Lamar
 
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