Subject: Prop Hub
From: ACRE
Date: 4/23/2003, 3:30 PM


Hi Butch,

 A thought occurred to me regarding the prop blade and hub and I can't
seem
to get it out of my mind, so thought I would send it for your
consideration.

    As you know there is an "coning" effect produced as the tips/ends of
the
blades want to pull forward while spinning while the hub end of the
blade is
anchored (by the hub).  My question regards the possibility of the
coning
forces at the tip of the blade causing the hub end to bind.  It would
seem
that to preclude the possibility of these forces causing the end of the
prop
journal from being forced to the side and contacting the hub ( and
possibly
binding) that the design would need two ball bearing races in the
hub/prop
journal separated by a couple of inches.

    Now that I have that off my chest, I will await your illumination of
my
befuddled brain {:>)

Ed Anderson


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Hi Ed / Gang;

I must apologize for my tardiness in answering, seems I have caused a
rather
tremendous ruckus-scramble after announcing my retirement, so I've been
swamped
with FINAL project closings......I must be pretty good at what I do
since they
refuse to "Let go" :)

Ed there's a short answer to your concern:   IF it could happen, it
would just
prevent you from pitching the Blades further, and they would freeze/hold
their
present pitch setting......The standard procedure would then be no
different
than any of the previous failures we've discussed.

However, for the sake of "illumination", I'm taking the liberty of
setting up
such a scenario....Ed you're right, there is a "Conning/Flexing"
phenomena
which occurs that is most prevalent at the Blade tips.....and ends
before the
Prop Hub, exactly where depends on the stiffness of the Blade.....The
stiffer
the Blade the further outboard, and the softer being further inboard.
Regardless, the LAEV's Hub merely sees this as a perpendicular Force on
the
Shank..........I agree with you, and it was previously discussed, that
two (2)
Bearings spaced apart on the Shank would be a stronger approach, but in
my
opinion way overkill.......The Bearing on the LAEV is quite capable of
taking a
great deal more perpendicular loading than it could ever be exposed to.
A
failure as shown in attachment NO 1 would take a TREMENDOUS amount of
force
which is well beyond the actual Blade design parameters and would be
considered
catastrophical.

Now for the kicker!!!!!.......The above is what's considered Static
Loading.
However in actual usage (Dynamic Loading), this becomes a completely
different
story since we gain an ally, Centrifugal Force.

Reffering to attachment NO 2:

A= 31,800 lbs.........Centrifugal Force at 3000 rpm (Dynamic Loading)
B=  1,459  " .........Perpendicular Loading at Blade mid point
(17.5"/1.612")
C= 15,839  " .........Load on Bearings (Static loading)

What this means is:
If you were to place Load B on the Blade, the Bearing will be loaded to
15,839#
at C static. As soon as you start to spin the Blade the dynamic loading
at C
will star to shift to the front of the Bearing, as the rpm increases
till you
get to 3000 rpm which unloads the perpendicular loading on the Shank to
0
(zero) lbs. This of course changes with Gyroscopic Forces......So you
might say
this prop is designed for 2918 lbs of thrust at zero Perpendicular Shank
Loading ;)

I hope most of you made sense of my babbling, especially you Mr. Test
Pilot:)

I'll be more than happy to clarify it further if necessary.

                                                            Butch


 Thanks, Butch for clarifying the situation.  Even my befuddled brain
understands.  That was the last thing I could think of, so sounds like all
bases are covered.

Ed


 
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