Subject: Fuel Valve received
From: ACRE
Date: 7/9/2003, 8:32 PM


Michael McGee wrote:

Got my 6 port valve today Bulent, looks great.  Thanks a bunch for
putting
this together.

I noticed one thing about the valve that we need to know.  In the
OFF
position you will get cross feed between the tanks as the valve
plug
(or
ball) is a three way unit (rotating tee).  On RV's the vent lines
run
high
enough that you shouldn't get any fuel running out overboard if
you
park
on
a side hill and turn the fuel selector OFF.  I don't know about
other
planes.  Personally the only time I use the OFF position is if I'm
working
on the fuel system or doing an emergency landing.

Cross feed can be eliminated with four check valves arranged
appropriately
between the tank ports and the valve inlets.  Earl's performance
fittings/Holley from Baxter's auto parts or equivalent, sized for
your
application.  Another way would be to plug one side of the ball to
make
it
a "L" instead of a "T", thereby making the valve an
OFF-LEFT-RIGHT-OFF
style.  Have not looked close enough at this to see if it's
feasible
or
not.

What ever your preference this is a great unit and a bunch cheaper
than
an
Andair.

Mike

Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR
13B in gestation mode

The 182 cross feeds too. I am not sure if it cross feeds on off
as I rarely turn it to off. I leave it in both most of the time.

In never seems to be a problem as it takes a steep slope indeed.
Just make sure your vents are anti syphon.
I think the 182 tees the vents together at the center (I could be
wrong
on this point) of the airplane to achieve this  as it only has one
vent
below the wing tanks no less. It faces forward to take advantage of
dynamic
pressure. 104 pounds per square foot or .72 psi at 200 MPH.
The vents should be on the outboard ends of the tanks and go back
to the center of the airplane. Seems like the top of the vertical
stabilizer is a good place for the vent line or lines.

We need a book or good article on this subject. Tony Bingelis mainly
handled the typical high wing gravity feed system in his Engine
book. Be a good article for Home Wings too. We went through a pile
of
this stuff for weeks in years gone by.

BTW does Van address fuel injection return line issues in any
of his plans?

Paul Lamar


Depends on the wing dihedral, tank configuration, and layout of vent
lines. In
order to equalize flow, many tanks have interconnecting vent lines,
few
check
valves, and other vagaries. I have flown planes with minimal dihedral
(<1
degree
overall) whose tanks would vent out 2-3 gal if parked on a slight
incline
at
all. The C210 and C177 are like this. The vents feed out opposite
wings
from the
tank in the other wing, no less and are interconnected, have redundant
vent
paths (caps are vented,
Is there a suggested layout for this valve, I presume it is
manufactured
to be
Left, right and off? The center positron feeds the engine if I am
guessing
right. No "both" position?


Marc Wiese


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