Subject: Canards and rotary engines
From: ACRE
Date: 9/16/2003, 2:41 PM


Dean Head wrote:

Joe Hull,
Glad to see another Cozy builder leaning toward a rotary.
Dean Head
Cozy MK4 #1040

"Joe Hull (Pilgrim Technologies)" wrote:

I'm more than leaning - I'm completely tipped over! I installed
my
rotary engine mount from Conversion Concepts a couple days ago
and
pickup my rebuilt 13B in a couple days!

Still have to work out all the plumbing in and out!

Thanx,
Joe Hull
Cozy MkIV #991 - Strakes in process (as well as engine)

Paul,

 In early August you suggested Paul Conner send his SQ2000
motor mount back,
suggesting it was going to fail. That engine mount looks like a
Conversion
Concepts mount. Care to elaborate?

Dave Wilenius
Cozy Mk4 #796


Conversion Concepts changes their design with regularity. I have
not
seen the latest. If Joe Hull sends me a picture I will comment.

Paul Lamar


 Well Joe, how about it? I would think that the canard community
would
be very much interested in this.

Dave Wilenius
Cozy Mk4 #796

You can see lots of photos on the web site:
www.conversionconcepts.com

Bulent


OK I will assume these are the latest.

Paul Lamar


First problem.
This problem jumped out at me when I just accessed the web site.

When they calculated the CG by NOT including the 8# starter and the 30#
prop
the CG on the engine is further forward (pusher) than it is in a real
installation. This erroneously made the the four mount system that they
use look better than it really is. Very clever or dumb depending
on how much credence to their motivation you give them. The real
engine CG is further aft in a pusher installation. About where the
rear housing is located. Honest mistake? Perhaps!

Paul Lamar


One other point of interest, it that there is also no alternator or belts on
the opposite end of the engine (opposite the starter and prop).  I would
suspect that putting the alternator and belts on, that might help to
partially offset the weight ot the starter?   Of course, it's hard to figure
prop, as there are so many variations.  Just an observation.   Paul Conner

The 30 pound prop weight will have the major affect as it's CG is at least 14 inches aft
of the rear end housing and about 20 inches aft of the center of the engine.
The eight pound alternator CG is probably only five or six inches forward
of the center of the engine. The starter will have a larger effect than
the alternator.

Paul Lamar
 
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