|marc wrote:
|>
|> --- In RX8@yahoogroups.com, Christine Eisenfeld <ceisenfeld@y...>
|> wrote:
|> > I purchased my new Rx-8 on 8/23/03. Within 2 weeks the
|> > tail lights cracked and had to be replaced. I
|> > consistently had trouble starting the car and usually
|> > had to give it some gas to get the car to start. Then,
|> > on 10/17/03, it died on me. When I tried to start it,
|> > it made a terrible scraping noise and all the lights
|> > on the instrument panel lit up. It was towed in and I
|> > was told it was a problem with a computer chip, and
|> > that the engine was flooded with gas. The same problem
|> > happened again yesterday, and the car's back in the
|> > shop for the third time in 3 months. I am going to
|> > meet with the dealer to see if I can get my money
|> > back,(I put down a HUGE down payment) because I do not
|> > want an unreliable car like this. I am extremely
|> > disappointed with this car. Yes, it IS a gorgeous car
|> > to look at, but mechanically, it simply is not
|> > functional. I'm going back to the old reliable, Honda.
|
|Mine starts every time. 4600 miles. Hurley have you had any
|problems with starting?
|
|With a computer the engine should never flood.
|Flooding is a problem from the past. Usually happens
|only with carburetors. If it really is flooding sounds like a software
|problem and the dealer can download new software in a flash.
|
|For example: If the RPM does not increase in a reasonable period of time
|(seconds) indicating the engine has really started all fuel could
|be cut off to
|the injectors.
|
|Paul Lamar
Mine acted like that (flooding?) just once ( about 2500 miles ...now have
6000 on it). Engine had already started normally in the garage and I was
backing out of my driveway. I was half way down to the street (about 30-40
feet) when it stalled...may have been when I was releasing the clutch too
quickly <G>.
Trying to restart produced classic flooding symptoms...occasional firing,
but no continuous running...then after a few seconds of trying, just
spinning...then smell of raw gas.
So, I left it there and took the RX-7 for the day's chores. Tried starting
it at lunch time, but same thing...fired, ran a "stroke" or two, then quit.
Then just spin with occasional firing, then just spin and the smell of raw
gas.
Stopped at the dealer late that afternoon. They said to give their towing
company a call when I got back home and he'd bring it in.
It was late enough in the day, I decided to leave it sit until the next
morning, when, with one last try, it started hard, but started, and spewed
oil smoke (bluish) as it warmed up. Drove it to the dealer where the
computer just said that it had misfired (check engine light had come on
during one of the restart attempts) ...which I'm sure was from the starting
attempts, and was not the initial cause. They could not find nothing else
wrong, and apparently others have not yet reported any similar problems. Bob
(the service manager) knows me well, and would definitely tell me if there
was.
At any rate, it's been starting fine since then...despite the temperature
getting down to below 15 degrees these recent mornings.
Still have heard nothing about the intermittent steering/braking situation.
BTW...the '87 RX-7 is still running great! 145,000 miles! been driving it
to avoid running the 8 around on the salted roads (had a foot of snow here
in the last couple of weeks.)
Harley
Raw fuel is probably accumulating in the bottom of the rotor housings
as it can no longer be swept out the exhaust port in the side exhaust
RX8 engine.
An oil pan heater will solve this problem. Heating the oil in the RX8
will heat the lower rotor housing vaporizing the accumulated raw fuel.
This probably happens when you start it up and move it for only
a few seconds and then shut off the engine. This is mentioned in
the manual as a no no. You are supposed to let it warm
up before you shut it off as I recall.
Paul Lamar
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