"Burns, Mark" wrote:

Paul;

            I spoke to Attila Melkuti the designer of the VTOL aircraft
at www.amvaircraft.com <http://www.amvaircraft.com/>  and found out that
they are going to start flight testing the prototype by the end of this
month. He further advised me that they plan initially to sell this aircraft
in kit form, then he wants to go to a turbine engine and sell it as a certificated
aircraft. Their initial testing will be flying it as a conventional aircraft
(taking off and landing on a runway) and eventually test the VTOL capabilities.
Just thought everyone might like to know.

Thanks,
Mark

Yes he signed up for the newsletter.

Paul Lamar

Is it real or is it Moller? Every time I see "investor information" on someone's 
web site my red flag goes up. What is it about rotary engines and VTOL's that 
attracts these kinds of stock "entrepreneurs"?  What type of business 
exactly are you in Mark Burns?

Old messages on this subject.
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Subject:            Is it Real or is it Moller?
   Date:            Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:23:59 -0700
   From:            ACRE <rotaryeng@earthlink.net>
Organization:       ACRE

 > > > Did anyone see this at OSH (AvWeb source)?

 > >
 > > Your Own VTOL, Hold Your Breath If You Like
 > >
 > > It's a dream that has eluded aircraft designers for almost a century but
 a
 > > California engineer and A&P mechanic says his strange-looking craft will
 end the
 > > quest. "Real freedom of flight is when you don't have to use an
 airport," said
 > > AMV Aircraft owner and designer Atilla Melkuti. A six-foot vaned fan
 under the
 > > belly would provide lift for vertical takeoffs. After the aircraft
 transitioned
 > > 26 degrees forward the fuselage and wing lifting surfaces would take
 over. With
 > > a turbocharged 450-horsepower Mazda rotary engine, Melkuti predicts a
 5,000-fpm
 > > climb for the 900-pound aircraft (gross 1800), 280-mph maximum speed
 (250 mph at
 > > 60-percent power) at 10 gph. First test flight is set for August.
 >

snips....

 > > Scott
 > > Gettings

 > Here are some pictures I took at OSH. Paul Lamar

 I chatted with the designer for a bit at Osh. While all this is possible
 with enough power,
 I would still not hold my breath, and grip my money tightly. He is not
 violating any laws of physics very
 badly, but the control system will probably kill him if he makes enough
 power to get off
 the ground. I suggested counter rotation, or a fan in each "wing"  with
 opposig rotation (better) to at least have the
 torque reaction balanced out instead of starting out unstable and correcting
 with vanes, but that
 did not seem to shake his confidence. I doubt that we will ever hear of him
 again
 Vance

Would you believe this AMV Aircraft made Aviation Week? So much for
their credibility.
Well at least they mentioned the Mazda rotary.

BTW Vance can you put Perry up if he shows next weekend at the
Camarrilo air show?
Another possibilty is Keith Moore.

I can't do it. Got a wedding to go  to. If you don't have room you
could ferry him over to my hangar/apt. and pick him up in the morning.
Shower, AC and cold drinks in the fridge.

Paul Lamar

Ken Welter wrote:

   Flat scary, even if it flew perfect that thing would glide like a
brick shit house if you lost an engine.

  Ken

Makes you wonder if the guys designing this stuff are even pilots.

BTW NASA is spending millions on a Chev V8 powered, 3900 pound ducted fan aircraft
and the chief designer is not a pilot. That thing will be lucky to
get off the ground in less than 8000 feet and get more than 5 miles to
the gallon.

Paul Lamar

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