> > > That is a comparison between bridge ported (Monster bridge port) and
> > > periphery ported engines. There is no leaking problem. Both stock seal
> rings are
> > > untouched. The port area just like the factory periphery port, the port
> area will
> > > be filled and no coolant will be available to leak. The port is cooled
> buy
> > > inducted mixture while running. As in carburetor ice. After shut down
> there will
> > > be heating of the ported area from heat soak.
> > >
> > > The kids are driving giant periphery ported engines on the streets of
> this
> > > country every night to engage in tire smoking contests. There is no
> increased
> > > wear from high RPM operation because there is no high rpm operation in
> aircraft
> > > use. Even 7,500 RPM for takeoff is not high RPM. The 300 plus HP from a
> 12A
> > > periphery port or 330 HP from a 13B is at over 10,000 RPM. That is high
> RPM
> > > operation.
> > >
> > > The bridge ported engine has much more intake duration and overlap than
> a
> > > periphery port, and the kids drive Bridgeport engines to work every day.
> It is
> > > hard as hell for me to drive the race car around slowly, with either
> port style.
> > > With a 1.96:1 first gear. It goes 70 MPH in first gear. Jump in the car
> stick
> > > in 3rd gear and drive to work and back. With a 3.26:1 stock first gear
> it is
> > > no problem. It just has very little power at low RPM. You only use 40 HP
> to
> > > get to work anyway so how would you know if it didn't have enough power
> down
> > > low? My bridge port has 205 HP at 7,400 RPM. We don't use the engine at
> that low
> > > an RPM.
> > >
> > > If you could only get 200 plus HP out of a junk yard 13B with some pipe
> and
> > > epoxy, would that not be worth the effort?
> > >
> > > It took me one day to make a set of Pport housings and assemble the
> engine.
> > > It is a good idea. It has been done. It works just fine. There is very
> little
> > > new ground to cover here. Don't raise the top of the exhaust port at
> all. Keep
> > > the intake open duration short and use a wide port to get the flow. It
> will
> > > work so well you will not believe it. Even if you miss the tune up, get
> the
> > > timing wrong, get the porting wrong, and get the runner length wrong, it
> will have
> > > so much power it will scare the crap out of you.
> > >
> > > I refer you to Tracy's first take off with the engine turning some real
> RPM
> > > where it started to make some of it's potential power with the 2.85:1
> box. That
> > > is with a street port not a periphery port.
> > >
> > > Not enough rudder? Almost ran off the runway? I like talk like that.
> > > So no full throttle until rudder is effective. Put that on a nice
> placard
> > > next to the throttle. Sounds like a P51-C.
> > >
> > > Lynn E. Hanover
>
> Lynn,
> The water leakage through thermal cycling I referred to was around the
> epoxied PP tube, it may be misinformation, if so - it's good to clear that
> up. It may have come from early trials of home-made PP, that weren't done
> properly, who knows, anyhow I accept your experienced recommendation.
>
> I'm not looking for massive power, I'm looking for a mild street port in a
> 12A demonstrator to test my aluminium end housings.
>
> So you suggest not raising the port IC from stock timing, to keep the
> duration short and the port wide. I'm a bit conservative and am concerned
> that too wide a port (especially in the 12A) will cause problems with the
> apex seal - so I will not go beyond the width of the exhaust port for that
> reason.
>
> Given my particular situation what IO and IC would you recommend Lynn
> George (down under)
George, in a msg to this list about 3 years ago Paul Yaw suggested a 1.5" dia PPort for a conservative beginning and thought that this would yield
~200 HP in a 13b. His assumption was that we would build multiple engines until we found the best combination for aircraft (afterall, HE can build
one in a couple of hours probably).
Ken Powell
That is a good idea. We should have a build a rotary contest at Sun & Fun workshop.
I think Dennis Hayes can do it in five minutes.
Paul Lamar
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