Subject: eng dyno
From: ACRE
Date: 12/26/2004, 4:50 PM


Ed Klepeis wrote:

Dear Paul
      Looking at your eng dyno I have some questions. !. how is the long
shaft connected to the eng flexcoupling,bolted flange,etc 2. On the other
end what is mounted to take the reading
gauge,meter,etc and where can you get it. I was thinking of making
something like this to take to air shows to show people whats on the market
and who's making it. Any ideas or offers vendors out
there let's hear it.

Regards

Ed

techwelding@comcast.net

Flex coupling? We don't need no stinking flex coupling!!!

I don't follow you Ed. Are you talking about a large garage door spring to
measure
static thrust?  If so the dyno needs to be mounted on wheels. You
calibrate
the spring by hanging it from the ceiling and using weights to measure the
deflection.
It comes out to some think like 100 pounds per inch of deflection. Then
all you need
to do is measure the spring with the engine off and again when it is
generating
max static thrust. Don't optimize the prop or the engine for static thrust
as that
can be dangerous. Some guy did that with a Suzuki engine and killed him
self.
Maybe you are worried about the shaft twisting the spring. Does not
happen.
The shaft only moves several degrees and that's it.

That is a small part of the dyno. The other part is the bathroom scale
to measure the torque. You might think a bathroom scale a bit crude but
the fact of the matter it makes an excellent torque sensor with high
resolution
and sensitivity. Does this answer your question? Perhaps a little sketch
would make it more clear for me.

Here is another drawing off the web site. You need one of these Ed. Would
help
with your Soob work. You could charge those Soob wienees for dyno time :)

BTW don't forget to use a pick up truck  steering damper opposite the
bathroom scale
beam to damp out the torsional vibrations. You will find that out right
away when you start to use it.

Paul Lamar


Ed,
Me too, on the demonstrator!

Paul,
1" mild steel on the axle OK!
Also thought a set of scales ( on edge, facing backwards might be OK instead
of the spring ?
George (down under)

One inch is marginal. I would stick with inch and a half. You can use pipe
if you wish but you will need sleeves for the pillow blocks. Make sure
that shaft is ground to the right size or you will play hell getting it
to fit the pillow blocks.

Bathroom scales are designed to work horizontally. Good luck on any other orientations.

You can use two or three smaller springs in parallel if you wish.
If it were me I would forget the static thrust feature. It is damn close to meaningless.
It only applies for a second or two on the takeoff roll or on air boats :)

Paul Lamar
 
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