Subject: Second flight
From: ACRE
Date: 12/29/2004, 7:22 PM



 > >  > > > > Paul wrote:

 >>  > > >
 >>  > > > Hi, fellow rotary enthusiasts....today I took my 13b powered
 >>SQ2000 canard up for it's second test flight. Today's flight was
 >>much more relaxing, as I already knew (from flight one) that the
 >>  > > > aircraft would fly.  I took her up to 2500 feet and just
 >>flew around for a while, watching water and oil temperatures, tried
 >>a few steep turns and did a little sightseeing (All within gliding
 >>  > > > distance of the airport). It was 64 degrees F today when I
 >>took off. During climb, my water temp climbed to 185 and oil
 >>climbed to 182.  Once I leveled off, temps settled in at 167 for
 >>the water and
 >>  > > > 164 for the oil.
 >>  > >
 >>  > > > With the new intake manifold, I was able to go to WOT on
 >>takeoff roll and left it there until reaching 2500 feet, where I
 >>leveled off for cruise.  I'm beginning to be more
 >>  > > > convinced that I may be over propped. (64 x 78 3-blade
 >>Performance prop). I could only get 4800 to 5000 rpm's both in
 >>climb and in cruise. I throttled back to 4400 and the cruise speed
 >>was rather
 >>  > > > disappointing at 140 knots with the gear still down.
 >>  > >
 >>  > > > I nosed her over slightly and IAS quickly went up to 180
 >>knots, and flight controls felt positive with no slop in the
 >>controls.  Engine ran
 >>  > > > smoothly and after shutdown, no oil or water leaks were
 >>found. It was nice to just hop in, fire it up and have a simple,
 >>turn-the key and go fly experience for my second flight. I need to
 >>get up to
 >>  > > > altitude next and do some stall testing soon, but would
 >>rather concentrate on getting the rpm's higher.
 >>  > >
 >>  > > > Even Tracy and Finn got higher RPM's with carburetors, so I
 >>highly suspect the prop. The
 >>  > > > rpm's max out at just beyond 1/2 throttle setting, and
 >>advancing the throttle further yields no increase in rpm's. The
 >>engine still runs smoothly, both at the 1/2 throttle and WOT
 >>positions....just
 >>  > > > maxes out the rpm's at 4800 to 5000.
 >>  > >
 >>  > > >      My idle is set too low (900 engine rpm's) and after
 >>landing, I found that the engine had quit. I rolled off the active
 >>and attempted a restart....nothing. Engine would turn over, but
 >>would not
 >>  > > > fire. I suspected flooding, so  I  turned off the fuel pump
 >>and advanced the throttle to WOT and within a few blades, it fired
 >>right up, then I turned the fuel pump back on and returned the
 >>throttle
 >>  > > > to idle and taxied back in.
 >>  > > >       Hope this was not too boring.   Paul Conner, Mobile, AL
 >>  > >
 >>  > > I say it is the manifold and not the prop. I would change the
 >>manifold before
 >>  > > I would change the prop. I will design a manifold for you.  I
 >>am sure Ed Klepies will
 >>  > > weld it up for you if you wish. We can make it ground adjustable
 >>  > > with sections of rubber hose and hose clamps. Is your engine a four
 >>  > > port or a six port.
 >>  > >
 >>  > > Do you have a mixture monitor (O2 sensor) in the exhaust pipe?
 >>EGT gages?
 >>  > > Manifold pressure gage? All essential for tuning the engine.
 >>  > > Could be something as simple as pressure drops across a
filter or hot
 >>  > > air intake. Send me some more pictures of the intake system.
 >>  > >
 >>  > > Paul Lamar
 >>  >
 >>  > Paul, What is the diameter of the butterflies in the TWM
throttle body you
 >>  > have?
 >>  >
 >>  > Perhaps Dave Atkins will give you your money back if you
complain long and
 >>  > loud enough? I don't know what Ed K will charge but I will
 >>design it for free.
 >>  >
 >>  > Vance, what do you think of this prop?
 >>  >
 >>  > Too bad Dave did not send you this TWM intake manifold.
 >>  >
 >>  > Paul Lamar



 >>  Here are some better shots of the intake manifold Paul is using.
 >>  I am not surprised it is not as good as the three carb set up

 > >>  used by Tracy in the early days and now owned by Finn Lassen.

 >>  Basically it is no manifold at all. It is mainly an
 >>  adapter that adapts the dual throat TB to the Mazda block.
 >>
 >>  Paul Lamar



    Atkins also makes a wrap around manifold that puts the Throttle
 body on top of the engine which I think would work better, or you
 could use the stock 13b lower  manifold section and the Racing beat
 upper section as the Atkins throttle body is the same bolt pattern as
 the Weber.
    Ken Welter




That is TWM throttle body Ken.
http://www.twminduction.com/faq/throttle_body_faq.html
I don't think he makes the manifolds either. Probably Racing Beat.

Paul Lamar




   Yes he makes the manifold as I know the foundry that is making the
castings for him.
  If anyone needs castings I would suggest this foundry, its Marvin
Mfg, there email is  marvinmfg@hotmail.com

    Ken


I wish he would race. Then maybe he could come up with a good manifold :)

Paul Lamar
 
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