Subject: LEZ mount
From: ACRE
Date: 1/1/2005, 3:13 AM


If you still want to use the third Barry rubber bushing as a front
mount
this might work.

Decouple the front mount beam from the rest of the structure using
rod ends
or rubber bushings. As Vance is fond of quoting some English
engineer: "an
ounce of rubber is worth a pound of engineering." :) Sometimes you
can add
too many tubes to a space frame and wind up with undesirable side
effects
such as local bending moments in joints that lead to cracks.

Again 1/4 scale balsa stick models made from 3/16th square do
wonders when
it comes to understanding a particular space frame design and I
highly recommend
doing one.

Paul Lamar


I don't think I received your original email on this, and you didn't
include my corrected drawing in my original email. Here is my
corrected
drawing again, see if there are any errors. I added the three tubes
you
had redlined in.

Perry


Needs yet more tubes.

Paul Lamar


If you sent something out showing the additional tubes, I didn't get it.
Can you redline them in on this picture?

I did not send it out. I sent something else out but here are both along
with
the message I sent out.

The problem is the ass half is getting TOO stiff. So you have to make the
front
half stiff as well. Gets too complicated to analyze with out space frame
FEA.

Paul Lamar


Orginal message:
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Subject:             LEZ mount
       Date:             Fri, 31 Dec 2004 06:51:46 -0800
       From:             ACRE <rotaryeng@earthlink.net>
 Organization:             ACRE


Lots of snips......

If you still want to use the third Barry rubber bushing as a front mount
this might work.

Decouple the front mount beam from the rest of the structure using rod
ends
or rubber bushings. As Vance is fond of quoting some English engineer: "an
ounce of rubber is worth a pound of engineering." :) Sometimes you can add
too many tubes to a space frame and wind up with undesirable side effects
such as local bending moments in joints that lead to cracks.

Again 1/4 scale balsa stick models made from 3/16th square do wonders when
it comes to understanding a particular space frame design and I highly
recommend  doing one.

Paul Lamar


It appears that there are some bending issues in the upper mounts.
Make the model!!!! Vance


 
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