Subject: Ceramic apex seals
From: ACRE
Date: 1/5/2005, 7:57 PM


The end product needs to have ceramic seals, even if you have to
make
a
set
that have the corner piece like the stock seals. I don't know how
that
would
wear on the cast iron. They are one piece for racing.

Lynn E. Hanover


Lynn,
I did see the cost of ceramic seals on here a while back, then figured
stock
cast iron would be good enough for my own application, but I agree
they
would be the 'bees knees' for Francois's ( Mistral) application.
Also solves the problem ( as Francois sees it ) for the P-port.

I think Francois has made a valid assumption on the wear of the seals
on
the
P-port ( especially on larger ports) but he may be over estimating the
extra
degree of wear on the port sizes and the RPM, we propose.

My opinion for what it's worth and I believe Lynn's extensive
experience
in
racing supports this.

Lynn what is the fit protocol for the ceramics - diamond grind the
ends to
allow X end play?
George (down under)


We'd love to put ceramic apex seals in our engines.  It would take a
monkey
off my back, so to speak.  But they would add a good $1,000 to the cost
of
our engines... and a few people, you know... some guys here and there...
have already commented that, if Mistral Engines seemed good, they
weren't
precisely cheap...  BTW, it's true, they are very good and worth their
price!  Be it known!  ;-)

What would be your choice, suppose you were to buy one of ours, if I
presented you with the following hypothetical deal:

- 1000hr warranty on the cast-iron seals (parts and labor) for a selling
price of $xxx

- or 3000hr warranty on ceramic seals (parts and labor) for $xxx + 1200?

Francois

Francois,

Give'em the choice and let the market decide!

I believe your main market is Commercial anyway.

If I could also suggest a non-certified engine ( for experimental) like
Jabiru supplies, might also help sales along.
George (down under)


 
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