Subject: Flywheel starter gen
From: ACRE
Date: 1/21/2005, 5:07 PM


BTW in my late night verbiage I said another stupid thing. Hanging
another
motor/alternator on the engine is just that.  Redundant generator unless
you
have something electrical you want to power. Charge the battery, and
then
drain the battery motoring one unit again is a net loss situation. NG.
Obviously to make a little turbocompound unit the second generator needs
to
be run by the turbo.

Funny I feel comfortable with electric mechanical motors or generators
but
not for oil and water pumps, in airplanes.  Call me silly.

One question for Vance. You mentioned homopolar motors once. I was
curious
if you had ever meet Bruce DePalma or seen any of his work? For those of
you
who don't know of him, Bruce was a very controversial physicist who
lectured
at MIT and had many theories that didn't agree with Newton's laws of
physics. I as well as Bruce hesitate to say the words free energy.
Actually
it is perhaps 'other energy' source. Before he died he made some
interesting
(but heavy) motors.

Doug in Japan

Well it is easy to check the alternators with no electrical load. Just
measure
the HP it takes to motor them at 10,000 RPM. I think you will find it
significant.
Most of them have a built in centrifugal air pump for cooling.

The one pound was arbitrary. It is some finite number but I would need
some details to estimate it.

I'll buy over 90% but call me skeptical about high 90's.
Paul Lamar

I have to admit that I am not familiar with the work of Bruce DePalma. My
exposure to homo polar alternators was for small, quick start power
generation systems driven by monopropellant (ie hydrazine, hydrogen peroxide
etc). Small, ultra high rpm turbines with direct drive PM alternators. The
rotor was a virtually homogenous cylinder to withstand the hi "G"
environment.
I owned a 1924 Buick which had a direct drive starter/generator, and of
course the Model T had flywheel magnets. I think both Revmaster and Monnet
integrate an alternator into the flywheel for VW conversions. But direct
cranking
is probably limited to some Hybrids. - Vance

 
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