Subject: Stock waste gate modifications
From: ACRE
Date: 3/15/2005, 2:43 PM


"Kent, Russell" wrote:

John Slade wrote:
[snip]
As I passed through 5800 with 36 MAP I noticed something
interesting.
[snip]
At 5900 rpm and 38 MAP it was even smoother.
[snip]
I backed off - ok chickened out - at 6100 rpm and 185 kts indicated
with a 44 MAP.
[snip]
By the way, perhaps I should mention that the manual wastegate
was wide open for the entire flight."

Russell Kent commented:
????
How can he get such MAPs with the waste gate wide open?  I would
expect
that a *properly working* waste gate should yield MAPs close to
atmospheric when fully open.

Paul Lamar replied:
The waste gate on the stock turbo is too small. The stock turbo
relies somewhat on turbine inertia and the back pressure of the
muffler to limit boost.

So what you're saying is the stock waste gate is not working properly,
in that it is undersized for continuous high power operation.

Russell Kent

I think so Russell. The flapper is limited to about 15 degrees open
as it hits the turbo charger back panel.

Here are my suggestions for improving it.

Paul Lamar


Paul, John Slade had his turbo done by Turbonetics in Australia, and with
the waste gate open all the time, he is getting boost in the 40's. I'm
thinking of removing the waste gate all together, or cutting half of the
flapper and leaving one of the ports open all the time?
Bulent

yes I know.
See my previous message. I would not permanently open it all the way.
Add another 3 inch exhaust pipe directly behind the waste gate to allow it
to open to a full 90 degrees. I'll do a 3D tonight as I need to go to
the machine shop.

Paul Lamar
 
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