Subject: Water jacket pitting
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 5/28/2005, 8:29 AM
To: AA-me , john@mazdatrix.com



John at Mazdatrix claims this is caused by a failed pressure
cap. Even in street cars. I am not so sure. It looks like
simple corrosion to me. In any event it would not hurt to
buy a pressure cap tester. Such a cheap device can be critical
to the cooling of your aircraft engine.

A pre flight cold cooling system pressure check using compressed air
would accomplish the same thing.

Paul Lamar


Paul,
Could this be caused by depleted corrosion-inhibitors in the coolant as a result of not changing the anti-freeze regularly, or possibly using the wrong type of coolant? I don't see how a defective pressure cap could cause this damage.

One more thing I've been wanting to ask for quite a while now, but never did.  Since we're discussing cooling system corrosion, this seems like an appropriate time to ask it.  It concerns electrolysis in the cooling system.  I have heard that the radiator needs to be electrically isolated from the engine in order to prevent electrolysis from eating your radiator.  Would using wiggins couplings, or braided SS hose, throughout the cooling system provide enough of a electrical path to set up an electrolysis situation?  If so, can I add some insulation gaskets in the wiggins couplings to interrupt the electrical circuit and thereby prevent electrolysis from starting?  Or, am I worrying about nothing?

Mark S.


No telling the history of that engine. The owner could have been using
tap water to cool it. As I understand it and not very well it takes
a voltage difference between objects to cause galvanic corrosion.
Use a digital voltmeter that can read down to milli or micro volts
and measure the voltage difference. If you have a voltage difference
you have galvanic corrosion... I think.  :)

Paul Lamar




We have an engine that is made up of aluminum and iron sandwiches. That in
itself is a recipe for galvanic corrosion. It can be controlled by proper
use of passivating layers provided by the additives in glycol coolant made
for aluminum/iron engines.

I don't know of a meaningful voltage drop test that can tell you that you
are 'safe' or not in such a system because of the intimate contact between
dissimilar metals in the Mazda engine.

Running with plain water, or with the wrong additives could be detrimental
to the health of your engine.

Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
Hi Paul, As you know I am not good at putting words to paper.  I know you can understand what trying to say. I have tried not to technical so it is understood by all. Please edit if you see fit.


Bill and Paul are right, and there are many things that can cause damage.

There is a difference in material potential and this has always been a
problem with all car manufactures. That is why they stipulate the
inhibitor that they have tested must be used in there engines. If you
put say 1 volt into the engine block or the cooling system you have a
totally different problem and that is ELECTROLIS not galvanic action or
corrosion. This is always the most aggressive erosion of material in all
metals but attacks alloys first.

In the marine industry I have written
many papers on the subject and have pr oven the cause that there is
always stray current that does the damage. This is not the marine
industry and needs to be looked at differently. The motor car is also
different to the aircraft but could be considered close. Electrical
current needs to go to earth! We have our engines on resilient mount or
isolators to electrical current.It is important to earth the engine back
to the battery. What is the end result if we don't. Current tracks in
all directions to find it way home and in it track takes the best route
it can find. In many case this is not a good connection and here we have
the problem. If you take a coolant powered sensor, tempriture and
pressure  that go's down and tracks + to -  that leaks to the cooling
system and travels in the water.

The best conductor is the alloy housing
which is hot and it structure is weakened. In potential it is the first
to disapate and  the cast iron will remain. Many coolant have a bad
chemical reaction to this electrical induction and increase the
desapation of the alloys. My conclusion is the the rotor housings where
damaged from stray electrical current.
Regards Don


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