Subject: Hi Tech Epoxy
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 6/5/2005, 7:25 PM
To: AA-me


Hey paul
Just reading about the hi temp epoxy issues. Now I'm not doing a p-port on
my engine
so forgive me if this doesn't make any sense. Is there any way to use a
roll pin or
spring pin to hold the intake tube into the side of the housing if you
could pin it
you would only need the epoxy to back fill any gaps better yet would be a
press fit
with a pin. You wouldn't need much say 1/16 or 1/8 in pin drilled through
the side of
the housing through the port tube, bang the pin in. When you reassemble
the engine
the pin is sandwiched like everything else. There would be no way for it
to come out.
I can only guess as to the amount of turbulence the pin may cause but
being so small
it may be negligible. I'm sure the hi tech epoxy's are wonderful stuff but
reading
what you guys want to do with it. You may be asking it to do more than it
is designed
for. A better solution might be finding a way to keep that tube in there
with a real
piece of metal maybe a tube with a collar on it or some sort of L bracket
there has
to be a better way to secure that into the engine. here are some autocad
drawings not
to scale.

Tony

There have been dozens if not hundreds of p-port engines built like
this in the last 30 years and they give no trouble. Some p-port
3 rotaries are making 1200 HP with bonded in tubes. Epoxy is good for
about 3,000 pounds per square inch shear load.

Paul Lamar


Tony/Jerry,
Advice to me is that there has been some problems with the epoxy breaking
down over time. I believe this is from the racing people here in Australia -
but who knows what they used!
Suggestions have been press-fit and back-fill with epoxy or even threaded
and back-fill with epoxy.
Unsure myself FWIW.
George (down under)

I am not surprised if it breaks down in about 10 years.
Most plastics go away in ten years. You can always weld
a tab on the tubes and drill and tap the rotor housing
for a couple of 10/32 machine screws. One on each side of
the tube. Here is the way Power Sport did it using small
studs.

Paul Lamar

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