| Subject: P-port meets expectations |
| From: Rotary Engine |
| Date: 6/7/2005, 8:55 PM |
| To: AA-me |
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Lewis" <aungsut@adelphia.net>, Bob & Ellie <bobellie@dctexas.net>, Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com>, Mark Precious <m_precious@yahoo.com>, Del Johnson <djohnson@north-point-solutions.com>, Eric Ruttan <ruttan@tridentfinancial.biz>, Barnhart <dsbarno@vbe.com>, Mark Steitle <msteitle@mail.utexas.edu>, Steve Thomas <steve@stevet.net>, Miles Wattles <Mileswattles@wmconnect.com>, Kevin & Kim <kcscoulter@msn.com>, Eneabba Smash <esmash@wn.com.au>, Rob W M Shipley <rob@robsglass.com>, Mark 5 <abstane@yahoo.com>, George Lendich <lendich@optusnet.com.au>, Keith Moore <phenixlc@adelphia.net>, Les Orosz <lmorosz@bellsouth.net>, "D.C. Bailey" <DCBailey5@aol.com>, DALE HARVEY <DHARVEY564@msn.com>, Robert Hammond <robertlhammond@yahoo.com>, Philippe <philippe.chenevier@wanadoo.fr>, Richard Martin <rm5lz@comcast.net>, Harold Kovac <kayce@sysmatrix.net>, Bob Perkinson <bobperk@bellsouth.net>, "Brian D. Cain" <bdc196@comcast.net>, Aubrey Thompson <athompson@CFCC.EDU>, Shawn B <shawnb@unorthodoxracing.com>, Dave Cronin Mistral Engines <d.cronin@mistral-engines.com>, Wayne Bulgerin <whatsupdoc31@hotmail.com>, jeff downing <bytmee@gte.net>, Mike Arnt <kingmrmike@hotmail.com>, Terry Wilson <tswilson@uswest.net>, Harry Batson <harrydb@hotmail.com>, "Giffen A. Marr" <GAMarr@Charter.Net>, Jim and Lucy <jpollard@ciaccess.com>, Paul MacDonald <silvamac@msn.com>, Robert Leclercq <rcl41244@yahoo.com>, Francisco Iannetti <iannetti@designideas.com>, "Geoff.." <gwpdesign@lineone.net>, Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com>, Brian Young <by2fly@yahoo.com>, Steve Hall <Shall@swfla.rr.com>, RICHARD NADIG <blueren@yahoo.com>, ANTHONY AMBROSIO <aambro@worldnet.att.net>, andy cottrell <richard_ranus@yahoo.com>, Matt Prather <mprather@spro.net>, Baz Mayne <bazmay@bigpond.com>, Doug Dempsey <Shearbond@aol.com>, "Weinstock, Rob" <weinstro@hotmail.com>, Dave Arbogast <dave@arb.net>, Jim Brewer <alpha@concordnc.com>, Dean Head <potato@bellsouth.net>, Stanley Blanton <stanb@door.net>, Guy Chapman <gchapma6@twcny.rr.com>, Brian Sieber <Brian@RXtuner.com>, Larry Hendrix <larry_hendrix@Charter.Net>, Bruce Beck <simbec@earthlink.net>, randy echtinaw <rjechtinaw@ia4u.net>, James Conaway <jconaway@netdoor.com>, Piet Cillie <pcillie@itc.ih.co.za>, CSMALE <smale@ncinternet.net>, Robert Earley <bob32123@earthlink.net>, d renaker <drenaker@insightbb.com>, Bill Siegel <bsiegel@adelphia.net>, Steve Webre <stevewebre@ccaconsultants.net>, Roberto Costa <robcosta@mp.sp.gov.br>, "Steere, John" <JSteere@harmanbecker.com>, Gregg Miley <GEM930@aol.com>, R J Thomas <n140sr@cox-internet.com>, Dean <dvanwinkle@royell.net>, Tom Kimsey <KIMSEYCO@aol.com>, Gary V <corinth@amtelecom.net>, craig crockett <chirocraig@hotmail.com>, paul malcolm booth <malbo@dodo.com.au>, Tony Snow <tony_snow@verizon.net>, JAMES HOLM <JHOLM4013@msn.com>, "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>, Norman DeBoer <nmdeboer@comcast.net>, Geraldine Berger-Yvon Cournoyer <geryvon@videotron.ca>, Erik Wahlstrom <erikwal@sbcglobal.net>, RONALD HOBBS <rjhobbs@sstelco.com>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Badoux?= <f.badoux@mistral-engines.com>, Kaufman Bob <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>, Gary Palmer <gpalmer@rogers.com>, Ray Cole <raycole@bellsouth.net>, "Barry A. Doublestein" <badone@goi.org>, Paul Vermillion <Paulo264@cox.net>, "Howard strope Jr." <Hstrope3@nycap.rr.com>, Kenny Bauman <kennybauman@earthlink.net>, RJS <pilotbob@rogers.com>, "Michael G. McFearin" <mmcfearin@comcast.net>, David Staten <Dastaten@earthlink.net>, Fred Nelson <fandp@mvdsl.com>, Richard Konnen <rkonnen@neandertech.com>, frank barbot <frankbarbot@hotmail.com>, Dan Cruger <cozy197dl@earthlink.net>, norm <stephen@speedpal.com>, Allen Ervin <scorpion472@comcast.net>, Rick Irwin <Rick@edgeproducts.com>, Michael Burke <mburke@southernphone.com.au>, Ray Shaw <wheeler8@telus.net>, Mark Juelfs <mrj22@comcast.net>, Henry & Gertrud Vogt <vogt@telus.net>, Marcello Grigorov <marcello.grigorov@hispeed.ch>, Marc <pedings@opticalsciences.com>, John Wolding <johnwolding@hotmail.com>, David Stricker <snow_board@cox.net>, Walt R <rotary.20.foxchap@spamgourmet.com>, Scott Trask <sctrask@diisd.org>, George Payne <g.payne@rotaryengines.ca>, Marc Cook <marc.cook@verizon.net>, Ian <kiltman@rogers.com>, Jerry Hey <jerryhey@earthlink.net>, "Douglas R. Fix" <douglasrfix@prairieobserver.com>, Will Simmons <wsimmons3@yahoo.com>, Vince Robertson <Vandbrobertson@cs.com>, Ian Beadle <ianb@ozzienet.net>, Thomas Hertzler <thomas.hertzler@t1aviation.com>, Richard Sohn <unicorn@gdsys.net>, Ray Vernon <rutanfan@yahoo.com>, TERRY BRENTLINGER <tbrentlinger@ma.rr.com>, The Buster Family <garybuster@ev1.net>, Dale Williams <dwilliams@vymac.com>, Roger Scott <rogs1234@yahoo.com>, david mccandless <daval@iprimus.com.au>, wiechman <wiechman@inwave.com>, Mike Little <mlittle@surfside.net>, Douglas Fir <fir@gol.com>, peter morrison <pm_9755@hotmail.com>, Kent Ashton <kjashton@vnet.net>, Hayes Rotary <sales@hayesrotary.com>, Tracy Hallock <thallock@austin.rr.com>, Robert Lundahl <rlundahl@gmail.com>, Andrew Douglas <adouglas@optonline.net>, Remi Khu <morpheous@kc.rr.com>, jesse farr <jesse@jessfarr.com>, Daniel Clark <dclark@nwlink.com>, Jim Kidd <j_kidd49@yahoo.com>, David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>, Guerdon Mitchell <guerdonmitchell@yahoo.com>, John & Llewella <j.evans@idl.net.au>, Andy Schechter <verticalroll@yahoo.com>, Gary Gustafson <gargus@adelphia.net>, Tony Beaton <twofooter@nucleus.com>, Dennis Himmler <dhimmler@comcast.net>, Douhlevski Svetlin <Svetlin.Douhlevski@psjinvest.cz>, Andrew Hussey <andrew@themolehill.co.uk>, Will James <will@jamesaircraft.com>, Papoo <Papoo747@aol.com>, Blake Lewis <blake.lewis@gmail.com>, Ed Pogue <edpogue@direcway.com>, LongEZ Tony <tonyslongez@cox.net>, Mark Ritchie <markritchie76@yahoo.co.nz>, Roy Cannon <rcannon3@tampabay.rr.com>, Patrick Panzera <panzera@experimental-aviation.com>, Ben swenson <benjamin_swenson@excite.com>, Mark Wrathall <wrathall@aon.at>, Phil stizer <stitzerp@bellsouth.net>, William Schertz <wschertz@ispwest.com>, Ken Powell <kenpowell@comcast.net>, Bill Bradbury <bbradburry@allvantage.com>, Tom Klinedinst <tkplane@rocky.fastransit.net>, Jozua Cloete <joosclto@mweb.co.za>, Geir Anderson <geir2121@netzero.com>, gordon arnaut <goarnaut@yahoo.com>, Charles H Davis <charlesd1@telkomsa.net>, Carl P Lindon <Lindon.CP@forces.gc.ca>, Fred Kessler <acfkessler@cox.net>, D Lucas <d_a_lucas@hotmail.com>, Joe Dendy <jdendy@bak.rr.com>, Duncan Meyer <duncan@chalksoft.com>, Robert Forbes <rwforbes@slic.com>, Todd Archer <archerw@ubtanet.com>, "Bill Bradbury <\"\" \">,Marc Wiese <cardmarc@charter.net>,Kevin Jarvis <k.jarvis@mchsi.com>,Samer Najia <samern@ix.netcom.com>,Gerard Binnendijk <biconsul@hrnet.fr>,VIRGIL N SALISBURY <virgnvs@juno.com>" <bbradburry\"@allvantage.com> |
With a carb no less. The carb is causing 5 to 8 inches of
Hg loss in manifold pressure due to venturis and butterfly
plates despite the fact it is a 58 mm carb. 58 mm is 2.3 inches
in diameter. At full throttle we were still seeing 10 inches Hg
vacuum or an absolute manifold pressure of around 20 inches of Hg.
A fuel injection system would eliminate most of this loss.
We ran out of time tuning Tracy's fuel injection sys so Dave suggesting
getting some numbers using the carb. Dave and the folks knocked out a
carb intake manifold in one day. I need to depart for the
Paris air show on Friday morning. Will be gone for a week.
I will visit Francois and Mistral in Geneva and try and talk
him into a P-port :)
Much thanks to Dave Lemon and all the guys at
Mazdatrix that helped out. Half a dozen jet changes and we were
up and running. These guys really know their Webers.
These are the pictures and numbers for the 28 inch runner
version. This would make a good engine for the 2.17:1 gear box.
Note the torque peak is 5600 to 5700 RPM which would make a
good cruise setting.
Paul Lamar