>Marc Pedings's injector flow tester is working
>great. Thanks again Marc. I notice the MSD and 2nd
>gen Nippon Denso injectors work down to about
>.8 ms. While the red and yellow RX8 injectors
>quit around 1 ms. All of them draw about
>.6 to .7 amps at 95% duty cycle.
>Next step is plumb them up and measure the flow
>as a function of pulse width and RPM. I still need
>a few parts like a 50 psi fuel pressure gage which
>I will order tomorrow from McMaster Carr.
>
>Paul Lamar
Might I suggest an oil pressure gage. I've had no problems using them,
namely the same one for ~10 years.
Cheap & easy to get from your favorite auto part store.
Marc Pedings
Thanks for the tip Mark.
Paul Lamar
The next day. ---------------------------------
Got the system working. See the attached jpg. Found out a very interesting
fact. The RX8 red injectors quit working at 1 ms and below if you up the
fuel pressure much above 40 psi. I set it up with 1.1 ms and 1800 RPM
for an half hour at 40 psi and I got 75 ml. That is 150 ml per hour or about
4.8 ounces of fuel for both. Lets see that is .01875 per injector
or .0375 gallons for both, Since there are 6 pounds in each gallon
that is .225 pounds. At .55 pounds per HP per hour that is less than
about .4 HP. I doubt the engine will idle at .4 HP. What I saw on
the dyno was about 10 HP at idle so these injectors are rather
amazing. They are probably near useless for our purposes. I'll check
the mid range shortly just to make sure. They have a nice foggy
spray pattern however. Check my arithmetic.
The return line had very few air bubbles in it and they were moving fast in
a 3/8 ID return line so if you are not returning fuel to the tank you are drawing
from, this system will empty that tank lickity split, mostly while you are
taxiing out to take off. ALWAYS return the fuel to the tank you are
sucking from. I don't know what the flow rate was yet but I will test it
shortly. The MSD high pressure pump was drawing 8.75 amps at 12 volts.
I connected my auto parts store vacuum pump to the pressure regulator
and discovered a slow leak. What this means is the regulator will
not lower the pressure at part throttle (15 inches of Hg MAP) and
your engine is likely to run too rich. Hopefully putting Teflon tape on
the 1/8th pipe thread where the intake pressure goes into the regulator
will fix the leak. If you are having problems with Tracy's EFI system
this vacuum pump is a good investment to check for leaks in the
vacuum system feeding Tracy's pressure sensors.
Also I consider a good aircraft manifold pressure gage a must.
BTW McMaster Carr has some cheap 2.2 inch diameter gages with 1% accuracy
and silicone fluid filled for damping at about $15 dollars each. I am using
the 60 psi version for monitoring the fuel pressure. Works great.
Paul Lamar
Hi Paul,
I have an Aeromotive fuel regulator. In the instructions they
specifically caution against using hand vacuum pumps to test the
regulator. They say a small leak is usual but claim it won't effect
normal operation with the engine vacuum.
Bob W.
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Well maybe. I think they are talking about it in the context
of a mass air flow sensor. In our case, with Tracy's computer,
the correct manifold pressure is critical or you will not get
the proper mixture at part throttle. Since the fuel pressure
regulator vacuum plumbing is part of the sensor plumbing a leak
at the fuel pressure regulator vacuum line input will definitely
cause problems.
What will compound the problem is the leak will cause the
fuel pressure regulator to not lower the fuel pressure as much as it should.
Since the fuel pressure is too high and the MAP sensors are getting
a higher manifold pressure reading than is justified by the throttle position
the engine will run rich on the low end which is exactly what we were
seeing on the dyno.
Is this clear or do we need more explanation or pictures? In other words
does everybody agree?
If the leak can't be fixed I suggest sending it back and getting another
brand that does not leak.
Bob, do you have a web site for Aermotive or a phone number for them?
Paul Lamar
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