Subject: M2 13B Install Pix
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 9/27/2005, 5:38 PM
To: AA-me



    > Paul-
    >
    > Here are the photos I was referring to earlier.
    >
    > In the first photo, we see the mounted 13b from the front.  You can
    > the
    > the 1-degree tilt to the right issue we'd mentioned a few weeks
   back.
    > You can also see (if you look real close) the flex of the SBeam
    > from the
    > engine load.  I wonder whether the tilt to the right is the source of
    > the interference for the VAM.
    >
    > Photo 2 shows the interference.  Cutting the exhaust tube &
   increasing
    > aft tilt will allow it to clear the tube.
    >
    > Photo 3 was supposed to show the flange not seating - but you can't
    > see it.
    >
    > Photo 4 shows the vertical clearance under a cowl for the whole
   setup.
    >
    > Photo 5 shows 3 inches of clearance at the top of the redrive mount
    > plate.
    >
    > Photo 6 shows 3 inches of clearance at the top of the water pump.
    >
    > Photo 7 shows the oil pan, since there was some debate on whether
    > we had
    > a std or large capacity one.
    >
    > Photo 8 shows a relatively stock M2 bottom cowling.  Interference
    > by the
    > vertical mount tubes prevent a perfect fit.  Not big deal, our
   bottom
    > will have to be blockier up front anyway for the shark mouth scoop.
    >
    > Photo 9 shows things up front looking good.
    >
    > Photo 10 shows an inteference by the starter motor.  Again no big
    > deal,
    > since we can massage our cheeks to not do this.
    >
    > Photo 11 shows the top fitting nicely.  We have it pulled back
   because
    > our length upfront is about 3/4" less than this cowl was made for.
    > (That's me holding it on btw).
    >
    > Photo 12 shows the fit working pretty well up front.  Same
   inteference
    > by the starter motor.
    >
    > Photo 13 shows trying to get as close as possible to actual
   fit.  You
    > can see the roughly 3/4 pullback at the rear.  Up front the distance
    > from prop flange to cowling is about right to accomodate the spinner.
    >
    > Mark

   Mark,  Thanks for the photos.  All in all, it looks very good to me
   particularly the clearance over the engine.  Plenty of room for the
   intake if you decide to wrap over the top.  RE: the engine being
   rotated to the right, the only thing I can think of is that I was off
   one degree when I set up the fixture.   In the fixture, the S-beam is
   bolted to a shaft which can be rotated to clock the mount and also
   move in and out to set the prop flange to firewall distance.  In
   clocking the beam, I have several reference points that must line up.
   I have not  had a problem prior to this.      Jerry

   Try putting a 1/2 inch spacer behind the top right hard point on the
   firewall.

   Paul Lamar


Top right?  If you mean the top port one, that would increase the
problem.  My solution is to simply put one more washer beneath the low
side of the SBeam -- that should bring it up to almost level.  We're
only talking 1 degree here.  Jerry - got a spare one of those Barry
washers?  Conversely, I could simply do nothing about the tilt at all; I
don't see the slight rotation as causing any difficulty.  Heck, I can't
keep an airplane that level in flight anyway ;-)  BTW -- what torque
should I be applying to the bolts on the mount-SBeam?  And, I have the
intense desire to drill the bolts as well...

Also, Jerry, Paul mentioned you might be making some of the rear engine
mount brackets that bolt to the bottom of the oil pan.  I'm pretty sure
thats the design I'm going with, so if you're already making a batch...
Since I'll be hanging it off a hardpoint at top center (vs. the bottom
center hard point I've seen in drawings of what I believe to be your
install) the only diff would be the tabs needing to stick out a little
farther to clear the block on the way up.

Mark & Mark

Top right from the pilots perspective (always from the pilots perspective :))
Bottom left will also work.

Yea those big bolts going through the rubber mounts are way over
kill. I would drill them out but you would save only a few
ounces.

I don't know the torque rating for a 8.8 (grade five) 10 mm bolt. I would
have to look it up.


Paul Lamar

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