Subject: Single Rotor Engines
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 4/11/2006, 7:54 PM
To: AAme


>> I picked up my single rotor 12A project over the weekend and I am
>> interested
>> to know how many guys out there are working on or have single rotor
>> engines.
>> I know most of you are interested in 2 or 3 rotor engines and I do not
>> want
>> to bog down the list, but I do have some questions if there is
anyone out
>> there with a single rotor engine.
>>
>> I noticed that Richard made reference to his single rotor yesterday
in an
>> email to the list.
>>
>> Jeff LeTempt
>> Dragonfly N41GK


> Yes, Jeff, I had my single rotor running for two years now.
> It is a p-port with compound AL side housings. I had been bogged down
for a
> while with building a house, but  I am slowly getting back to it
again now.
> The side housings so far are prof-of-principle configuration,
meaning, not
> flyable. This is going to change next with castings being used,
> accommodating final design features.
> For the 12A based version, the FF weight is 170lb.
> I will certainly try to answer your questions if I can.
>
> Richard Sohn
> N-2071U


> Richard,
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.  I know nothing about the history of the
> engine that I bought.  The Ross 3.17:1 PSRU appears to be new and
unused and
> the engine externally looks very nice.  It does not have a starter or
> alternator.  The water pump housing has been modified with HUGE anodized
> fittings.  It has a thin wall steel tube intake manifold with a Weber
carb.
> No exhaust system.  No oil filter or cooler yet.  The main pulley is not
> present on the exposed end of the concentric shaft nor is the water pump
> pulley.  No ignition system, but it does look like there is a later model
> distributor installed that just has a few wires sticking out (2 or 3 I
> think).

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You certainly would not need a distributor, since the plugs normally fire
simultanously in AC use.

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>
> This engine will go on a tricycle gear Dragonfly that was previously
powered
> by a VW 2180.  I would like to have a good solid 80 HP for take-off and
> climb (would love to have 100 HP).  I am more into the economy cruise any
> will probably typically cruise using about 60'ish HP.  I am not all that
> interested in tweaking every last HP out of the engine, I am way more
> interested in reliability, low maintenance, and longevity.  Based on the
> performance of my MK-IIH Dragonfly powered with a L2000 Limbach I
expect a
> cruise speed of about 140 MHP IAS.
>

> I am considering EFI/EI over the carb and ?? ignition.  The Tracy
Crook EC2
> looks very interesting right now.  I am very interested to hear your
> recommendations on this.  The Crook EC2 might add a few hundred $ to the
> total cost, but over the life of the airplane that cost is insignificant.


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If you are looking for relaiability and low maintenance, I don't think
you can beat a carburetor. All you get with FI is a somewhat better fuel
consumption. There is also no need on the rotary to vary the timing
verus RPM, unless you have a situation where detonation may become an issue.

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> Do you have to do anything special with counterweights to
>balance the engine?

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In priciple yes! Does the engine have a fly wheel or a flexplate?
Standard balancing components from a two rotor will not work! Generally,
the balance weights have to be bigger than on the two rotor. I am using
a 13B counter weight with added weight on it, and a custom flywheel.

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> Not sure what I will use for a radiator or where I will mount it yet.
> Several Dragonfly builders using water cooled engines (Subaru's) have
been
> very happy with a P-51 style scoop on the belly of the fuselage.
With the
> small size of the engine and the long PSRU, I think it would be
possible to
> mount the radiator(s) in the engine cowl.  That would almost certainly
> reduce the weight and complexity of the water cooling system.
>

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At the speed the Dragonfly is capable of, cooling should not be a problem.

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> There is a partial engine mount that looks like it should work quite well
> and the oil pan looks very good.
>
> I will probably come up with a few hundred more questions - sorry.
If I get
> to be too much of a pest just let me know.
It would help if you could add a picture>
> Thank you very much for your advice!!
>
> Jeff
> Jeffrey.letempt@us.army.mil <mailto:Jeffrey.letempt@us.army.mil>
> Dragonfly MK-IIH N41GK
> Rolla, MO


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