This is the start of my Thorp T18 engine mount tacked together.
   When it
        comes back from the welder I will tack together the bottom
   cross pieces.
        Am I leaving anything out?? Karibian

        I assume those verticals are just temporary as welded them
        in would hurt and not help. I cannot see the lower hard points
        connections so I cannot comment on those.

        The upper connections are inadequate. You need a more traditional
        cup type connection where the bolt is in a blind tube. See the 2D
        sketch attached. The angle will crack sooner or later. You also
   will
        need an X in the bottom of course. See the attached 3D.

        If you have the schertz beam I would bolt it on before
        the welder did any final welding. If not make a temporary
        schertz beam simulator so the mount does not warp out
        of alignment with the schertz beam.

        Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.



   It seems that the verticals help the lower tube from buckling under
   compression loading, though additional tubes would need to also be
   installed off-axis from the existing ones (horizontally).

   Matt-


   It would become another "bay". That bay would then become
   un triangulated. It would "lozenge" to use a popular technical
   term :) When you start adding tubes you have to add more
   and more and you wind up with a Birdcage Maserati chassis :)

   You can see this if you make a 1/4 scale balsa or welding rod
   model and apply some load. To stabilize the lower tubes from buckling,
   (if for some strange reason you can not go up on the tube OD),
   break the bay into two or more triangles.

   On the other hand if the mount is already made and someone screwed
   up on the design and did not make the diameter of the tubes large
   enough or made  them too long and you needed to add a band aid
   to prevent buckling then make the  supporting tubes small in
   diameter(less than 1/2 inch)  and they will deflect locally rather
   than the main tubes. Also a flexible connection can be made using
   rubber or ball joints that will stabilize the tubes in buckling
   but not add stress concentrations.

   Needless to say it is best to design the bloody thing right from
   the get go calculating the buckling possibilities. This
   leads to a simple and elegant motor mount.

   Here is a 2D. I'll add this to my bad details collection.

   Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.



Can't argue with any of that logic..

I believe the Maserati chassis was designed by a welder's union
structural engineer...  :)


Matt-


They only did it once :)