Subject: CDI
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 5/31/2006, 7:26 PM
To: AAme





    Perry I think you should try an MSD ignition. Cap discharge
    is supposed to punch through lead deposits. Or build you own.

    I think I have one of these I can loan you for test.

    Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Silicon Chip has a new universal high-energy electronic
    ignition system that
    completely supersedes our previous design.

    Main Features
    Operates from points, reluctor, Hall Effect and optical triggers,
    or 5V signal from engine management computer
    5-15V negative earth operation
    Selectable dwell period
    Coil switches off whenever engine is not turning
    Dwell extension with low battery voltage
    Minimum spark duration of 1ms
    Two points debounce periods
    Special operation for poorly operating points
    Anti-theft ignition disable switch option
    Optional inverted trigger signal operation

    http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_105632/article.html

    This is a subscription based site so it will cost you $6.70US
    to read the entire article.

    --Sandy

    Perry, here is the one I have. Send me your address and
    I will loan it to you. Keep a set of plugs that have
    been fouled by 100LL and reinstall them for test on
    the ground.

    Paul Lamar
    ----

    I'm on a web-based access, hopefully this isn't an html message.

    I haven't burned 100LL for a year, not since my last trip to KS when
    I found out TCP doesn't work. I think it doesn't work because the
    cylinder head temperature is lower in a water cooled engine. So I
    don't have any fouled plugs laying around anymore. I would have to
    install the system and then burn 100LL.

    I downloaded some manuals from MSD awhile back but it wasn't really
    clear how that system installed into an RX-7. Do you think this
    system is easily installed and removed?

    Send by USPS to PO Box 1553, McMinnville, OR 97128. If you want to
    send by other means let me know.

    Perry


Ok Perry. There is plenty of data about it on the Internet.


Here is some stuff I extracted from the pdf.

On second thought this is not going to work with the
RX7 ignition system as it fires a single coil twice
per rev and it relies on a distributor to send the spark
to the right one of four plugs. We don't have distributors any
more. However this is a very high performance MSD system.
I think you might need at least four of these circuits.
They are well worth replicating.

If you want to start from scratch here is an idea
I had a while back.

Shown are three capacitors charged to 300 volts switching
a coil in sequence by a CPU. Any number of caps and switches
can be used but the output impedance of the power supply must
be low and the converter frequency higher than 20Khz to
recharge the capacitors rapidly. The sequence can be rapid
or somewhat less than rapid at lower RPMs. In other words
a variable pulse rate multiple spark capacitor discharge
ignition system. The limit is the CL time constant. High C voltage
low  L means a rapid voltage rise time with a narrow pulse width.

The chart from Heinze Heisler s book Advanced Engine Technology
showing a cap discharge time or pulse width
of 30 milliseconds which is obviously too long for
an MSD system. Perhaps more than 300 volts is needed
for charging the cap. Most cap discharge systems use
a 1 mike cap and 300 to 350 volts. Evidence is if you go higher
on voltage than this a stock automotive coil may break down.

I was thinking of experiemtaing with a 15KHz CRT fly
back transformer. 15KHz is a period of .01 ms if my
arithmatic is correct.

 7000 RPM is  116.7 rev pere second or 42,000 degrees per
second  or one e-shaft degree in .02 ms.

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.ne degree in


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