Subject: CDI
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 5/31/2006, 11:29 PM
To: AAme



     Perry I think you should try an MSD ignition.
Cap discharge
     is supposed to punch through lead deposits. Or
build you own.

     I think I have one of these I can loan you for
test.

     Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

   
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     Silicon Chip has a new universal high-energy
electronic
     ignition system that
     completely supersedes our previous design.

     Main Features
     Operates from points, reluctor, Hall Effect and
optical triggers,
     or 5V signal from engine management computer
     5-15V negative earth operation
     Selectable dwell period
     Coil switches off whenever engine is not
turning
     Dwell extension with low battery voltage
     Minimum spark duration of 1ms
     Two points debounce periods
     Special operation for poorly operating points
     Anti-theft ignition disable switch option
     Optional inverted trigger signal operation

   
http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_105632/article.html

     This is a subscription based site so it will
cost you $6.70US
     to read the entire article.

     --Sandy

     Perry, here is the one I have. Send me your
address and
     I will loan it to you. Keep a set of plugs that
have
     been fouled by 100LL and reinstall them for
test on
     the ground.

     Paul Lamar
     ----

     I'm on a web-based access, hopefully this isn't
an html message.

     I haven't burned 100LL for a year, not since my
last trip to KS when
     I found out TCP doesn't work. I think it
doesn't work because the
     cylinder head temperature is lower in a water
cooled engine. So I
     don't have any fouled plugs laying around
anymore. I would have to
     install the system and then burn 100LL.

     I downloaded some manuals from MSD awhile back
but it wasn't really
     clear how that system installed into an RX-7.
Do you think this
     system is easily installed and removed?

     Send by USPS to PO Box 1553, McMinnville, OR
97128. If you want to
     send by other means let me know.

     Perry


Ok Perry. There is plenty of data about it on the
Internet.


Here is some stuff I extracted from the pdf.

On second thought this is not going to work with the
RX7 ignition system as it fires a single coil twice
per rev and it relies on a distributor to send the
spark
to the right one of four plugs. We don't have
distributors any
more. However this is a very high performance MSD
system.
I think you might need at least four of these
circuits.
They are well worth replicating.

If you want to start from scratch here is an idea
I had a while back.

Shown are three capacitors charged to 300 volts
switching
a coil in sequence by a CPU. Any number of caps and
switches
can be used but the output impedance of the power
supply must
be low and the converter frequency higher than 20Khz
to
recharge the capacitors rapidly. The sequence can be
rapid
or somewhat less than rapid at lower RPMs. In other
words
a variable pulse rate multiple spark capacitor
discharge
ignition system. The limit is the CL time constant.
High C voltage
low  L means a rapid voltage rise time with a narrow
pulse width.

The chart from Heinze Heisler s book Advanced Engine
Technology
showing a cap discharge time or pulse width
of 30 milliseconds which is obviously too long for
an MSD system. Perhaps more than 300 volts is needed
for charging the cap. Most cap discharge systems use
a 1 mike cap and 300 to 350 volts. Evidence is if
you go higher
on voltage than this a stock automotive coil may
break down.

I was thinking of experiemtaing with a 15KHz CRT fly
back transformer. 15KHz is a period of .01 ms if my
arithmatic is correct.

  7000 RPM is  116.7 rev pere second or 42,000
degrees per
second  or one e-shaft degree in .02 ms.

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.ne degree in

Here is a pdf on the IR2155. Real handy little circuit
that makes a real simple 12V DC to 300 Volt DC converter
for CD ignition systems.

Also Racing Beat solution to rotary engine ignition :)
One MSD system per spark plug.

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

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