Subject: Ross PSRU
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 8/27/2006, 8:55 PM
To: AA-me

Hello All,

Here’s a question to the group for those who own a Ross PSRU.  I own a
Ross 2.17 to 1, and I am tying to solve one of the issues regarding the
“drive shaft” from hitting or bouncing off of the thrust bearing – I’m
sure people who own such a unit knows what I mean.  I found some
solutions on the net but I’m wondering if anyone else in this group has
a suggestion, possibly a simpler solution.

I’ve heard comments of “just sell the unit and get another one” but I’m
not sure that I need to go to that extreme.  My primary two reasons are
1 – The unit is an integral part of my engine mount and 2 – A
replacement would probably cost me two to three thousand dollars (if not
more to redesign my engine mount) – just to note, I purchased the plane
from someone else, so it’s not my original idea….

I’ve included a few pictures of my setup.

Cheers,

Burck Hantel

FYI:

A fellow named Phillip Johnson explains what is going on a little better
then I can so I am reiterating his explanation here:

http://www.canardzone.com/members/PhillipJohnson/Engine/psru.htm

“Breaking open the PSRU reveals the working parts, namely the planetary
drive. Under load conditions the input shaft is drawn towards the output
shaft to which the propeller is attached. A thrust race, takes this load
quite satisfactorily. When in a decent the propeller drives the engine
and the input shaft is forced to move in the direction of the engine.
The ROSS design does not provide a true thrust bearing to support this
load, moreover the load is taken by a conventional sealed ball race
contained within the lightweight flywheel. This bearing is there to
accommodate the slight differential rotational rocking motion
encountered as a result of the torsional isolator mounted on the
flywheel. A resonant condition is set up when operating near idle when
the engine drives the propeller followed by the propeller driving the
engine. There is considerable chatter at that point and the input shaft
is hammered back and forth between the thrust race illustrated below,
and the conventional bearing previously described. The bearing begins to
break down and the end movement increases only exacerbating the problem.”

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I under stand the problem. The next message will offer some ideas.

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

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