There is a moderator, me.
I will quickly delete any spammers or uncivil participants. It's
true
that these Yahoo groups can be pretty farcical for lack of an
active
moderator. This will not happen here.
If I see that spammers are starting to take advantage I will vet
every
new member application. For the time being I will keep it as open
as
possible.
Not all Yahoo groups are full of yahoos. I've been a member of the
Jodel
Club for some time and it has been great. Lots of collegiality and
many
friendships made, both online and offline.
Regards,
Gordon.
"There is a moderator, me." I highly recommend it.
If your going to do that Gordon you might as well
forget Yahoo. I highly recommend that too.
If that is indeed the case on both counts... count me in :)
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.
Hi Gordon,
I am a member of a couple of Yahoo groups as well, and agree that they
can work pretty nicely. However, the groups I am in which started out
unmoderated have all become moderated, and the moderator approves each
member joining and once in a while kicks somebody out. No big deal.
The other thing about Yahoo is flakiness. It seems like the group
settings for email protocol occasionally get's wacked out, and the
moderator doesn't have direct control over it. Again, not a big deal.
Just something else to live with.
Anyway, I am happy that Paul doesn't want to move his group. If
EVERYONE did yahoo, yahoo would have a monopoly, and that's rarely good
for the consumer.. An alternative I like is matronics. Totally
private, and no advertising. Aeroelectric-connection uses it. Like I
said, I am happy with this setup however.
Matt-
Matt,
I'm not suggesting to Paul that he move his group to Yahoo. This way
works good for Paul and everyone in the group. I'm simply inviting him
to join the ductedfanaricraft group and take part in the discussion.
I've seen a couple of the Matronics groups but I'm not a member of any
of them. I will give it a look. I would consider going the route that
Paul is suggesting too, but I have no clue how that works or how I would
set it up. It seems like a lot of work.
Regards,
Gordon.
No problem Gordon. I can help. It is easy. My objection to yahoo
is; they are using talented people that have a following to compile a
huge
data base of demographics, email addresses and participant's interest.
You the moderator get nothing out of it but they make millions selling
this info. Also the more people that access yahoo the more
money they make from their advertisers. The advertisers pay a
small fee for each access.
I quit watching TV with out a TVIO as the advertising was too
much of a waste of my time. With a TVIO you can jump over adds.
It has nothing to do with preventing spam. yahoo are lying.
If there is one thing I can't stand is lying.
The other problem is formating. It is hard to read a series of messages
which each person chooses his own format and signature file.
Many people also use Internet groups to advertise their products.
I don't object to that in moderation particularly if it is related
to the subject such as what Bob White and Jerry Hey do.
Jerry, bless his soul does not use a signature file to advertise but
I have been after him to do so because it is a service needed
by our readers. Besides, new people are always asking me where
they can get motor mounts made. That takes up some of my time.
Other than the few people that are providing needed services
I suppress contributors email address to prevent spamers from
collecting email addresses on here.
The other thing you will run into is professional shills that
get paid by people that would otherwise rip you off in some way.
The shills job is to counter negative publicity about their clients.
Moller is an example. I can usually spot them from a few secret
clues. It is an old carnival profession.
Starting before Genie I have been on BBS's and the Internet
for over 15 years.
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.
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I prefer Yahoo forums over most other email lists and web based
forums. (No, that is not an offhanded swipe at this list.)
I subscribe to well over a hundred Yahoo lists and I "own" a
half dozen.
I don't actually read most of the Yahoo emails I receive. I
archive them so I can rapidly search them when the need arises.
Yahoo makes the process of being a moderator simple and painless.
A group can be set up in a couple of minutes. "My rules" are:
open membership, no flaming, no spaming. Off topic discussion
is welcomed. New member's messages are moderated to weed out
the spammers. I almost never get any spammers. My theory
is that they don't even try because they know their first message
will be reviewed before posting.
Yahoo also makes it a trivial matter to add assistant moderators.
These assistant moderators really ease the workload and worry.
I can take vacations and attend air shows without shutting down
the list. I also avoid pissing contests with EarthLink. I am
not violating the TOS so I ethically hold the high ground.
So yeah, as a moderator I get plenty from Yahoo. How could
anyone think otherwise? Yahoo is advertised supported and
they make money? Who gives a flying flip? I don't begrudge
them of that. How could anyone object to that? You made the
right decision Paul, if you don't like it then stay away. No
one has the right to force it on you.
Tivo is also advertiser supported. Tivo phones home with data
about the programs you watch, the ones you record and don't
watch, and when you watch them. Bear in mind that Tivo has
a lot more VERIFIED personal data from you than Yahoo does.
I haven't succumbed to Tivo yet because I don't watch much TV.
Hell, I only have basic cable and a TV with a CRT. No flat
panels yet.
--Sandy
I disconnected it from the telephone and it still works.
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.
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