>> I know talk is cheap, but every time I look at a 20-b e-shaft
>> I can't help but thing that it's a no-brainer to cut on any decent
>> CNC lathe. I'm sure there's a bit more to it than turning a hunk
>> of steel and hardening the crap out of it. Anyone have any
>> in site into what's
*really* involved in making a 3 rotor
e-shaft? I
>> know a few others have done it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>>
>> I think you are pretty much right.
>> I think you need to grind and polish it after it is turned
>> and heat treated.
>> --
>> Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.
>
> Bob,
> Well there's selecting the right material in the first instance as
> different
> heat treatments for different materials have different outcomes.
> Of course there's the core toughening characteristics required as
> well as
> the surface hardness. You would need to know those parameters to
> advise the
> heat treaters.
>
> Yes CNC would be good, but you need to grind before you heat
treat, so
> selection of heat treatment and therefore material is important as
> you don't
> want too much distortion. A final polish will be required. CNC
> will give
> the most accurate eccentric off-set and the centre oil line needs
> to be
> accurately drilled.
> That's only the one rotor and 2 rotor, I know nothing about the 3
> rotor, so
> the position of the 3 rd. lobe and joining the two pieces, is
> probably
> another story.
> So apart from those things your probably right - piece of cake!
>
> Oh yeh then theirs the balancing - probably better to buy one, no
> matter
> what the cost!
> George (down under)
>
> Grind AFTER heat treat.
>
> Paul Lamar
This is a good chance for me to expose my ignorance. The e-shaft has
one center through the main shaft and another center which is the
center of the eccentrics. How would it be set up in the lathe?
Jerry
I don't really know how it is done.
I think to do it on an NC lathe it takes a one step up machine called
a four or five axis lathe. Either that or something like a
special clamp with an offset center that goes in a regular
NC lathe chuck. The world has been doing this with crankshafts
for 100 years.
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.
I don't see how making an e-shaft is any different from making a
camshaft. But possibly easier because the eccentric is round..
I kind of don't think CNC buys you much - the shape doesn't seem that
complex. I see it kind of like duplicating a key for a tumbler lock
(kinda). The machine allows you to chuck the blank and the pattern.
The chuck/blank rotates slowly, the grinding stone quickly. The
grinding stones position is determined by a stylus resting on the
pattern. The pattern can be made up from non-structural, easy to grind
material - in pieces.
Matt-
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