Subject: Rotary engine 3D model
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 1/28/2007, 7:37 AM
To: AARotary Engine



    >
    > Very nice design Ted. I would like to see just the chassis part
   of the 3D.
    > Go to the web site.http://www.rotaryeng.net
    >
    > On the front page scroll down to "... Down Load".
    >
    > Click on Down Load and save to disk.
    > It is a zip file with a lot of Rhino 3D engine models.
    >
    > Unzip of course.
    >
    > Some of the files are in IGES format that will import directly into
    > Solid Works.
    >
    >
    > BTW I understand that Vaz stopped making rotaries. Is that true?
    > --
    > Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.



   Hi Paul,
   Many thanks for your reply. Have to admit that I'm ashamed that I
   was unable to
   find that "download" link myself. Any way thank You very much for
   pointing me in
   the right direction.

   I attached a couple of pictures of chassis. It's a common racing GT
   layout used
   many times before. Monocoque end front and rear subframes. Rear
   subframe is
   containing roll over structure. Monocoque is made of flat honeycomb
   panels - to
   reduce tooling cost. My friend Paul Martin (worked for long time at
   McLaren F1
   team as head of composite department) is helping me great deal in
   monocoque design.
   I agree that moulded monocoque would look much nicer. But according
   to Paul's
   practical knowledge, using flat panels, structural loses are
   minimal. Anyway
   torsional stiffness is going to be high and overall chassis rigidity
   is more
   limited by subframes (front in particular) than by tub.
   Front engined.... working with formula cars I'm all in mid engine
   layout. But
   for several reasons (it's a long sad story) this one will have to be
   with
   engine in the wrong place. How ever I will try using transaxle mated to
   engine/clutch via torque tube. This is one of the reasons why I'm using
   rotary - even if engine is in front it should be well within wheelbase.
   Rotary is relatively short and compact overall package. It is also
   relatively
   light with some power available for reasonable price.
   It uses early 90's LMP cars style underbody aero. Flat bottom with
   tunnels
   starting within wheelbase just aft CG. I use much more conservative
   diffusers
   AoA - 5deg. I will try front diffuser (similar to current LMP
   designs) and see
   how it will work.
   It's a street but track oriented car. I think that most current
   sports cars
   are not exactly what I would like them to be. I always wanted to
   have something
   that could be fun on the street (well not really a daily driver) and
   feel as real
   race car on track. I feel that most current sports and even exotics
   are not exactly
   what is needed. Practically they are too stiff and too low (4" being
   typical?)for
   the street and too soft and too high for race track - especially if
   car is capable
   of generating some appreciable downforce. I decided to get a bit
   tricky with suspension. I designed it the way that it works (in
   terms of geometry - roll and instant centers control, camber control,
   castor, KPI etc., etc.) at two ride heights - 125 and 60mm. All one
   needs to do is
   relocating 8 bolts connecting bell cranks to pushrods and ARB links.
   Adjust pushrod
   prescribed amount. Main idea that this way he has his wheel rates
   1.85 times higher
   than on street and ride height reduced from 5" to 2.36". Now the car
   low enough so
   underbody tunnels can start to really work and stiff enough to
   support vertical and
   lateral loads. I do understand that most people will still consider
   it's too much of
   hassle. I have a little 8 nodes, 24Gb RAM cluster so I can run a
   reasonably large CFD
   models 18-2000000 cells usually. This allows to approximate aero
   behavior to some
   extent. Before we can correlate it with experimental measured
   results it's more of
   a trends study but still very useful. I'm more inclined towards
   chassis and suspension.
   May be aero. How ever engines are a black art for me. I'm only
   starting to learn in
   this area. In any way I better rely on someone's expertise and
   experience to find out
   what might work or not.
   May be you could help me with some sort of advise?

   VAZ is still making those engines - for helicopter usage mainly.
   How ever I felt that Mazda engine is more errr... "established"?


   Thank You
   Ted   In Moscow

   PS: I just opened the models (IGES worked fine) and I'd like to ask
   your permission
   to ask few questions about those models?

   --------------------------------------------------------------

   Sure.  Ask away Ted. Your English is excellent. I just wanted to say
   I have been
   to Moscow and it is a  nice city. dos-be-don-ya. Ne pun-e-my-at
   par-rus-ki.
   Half ass phonetic translation :)
   --
   Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

Hi Ted,
Are you targeting to use your design for a one off kit car, or try to
mass produce it ?
A couple of years ago, AC Cobra opened a new composite body factory here in
Malta. If you interested contact me.

regards
Roderick

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