Subject: Mustang II
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 3/20/2007, 11:48 PM
To: AARotary Engine


> > The Mustang II is a lot more complicated build than the RV's.
> I have had
> > RV-4 plans for years, and now have a Mustang II project cause
> the price
> > was
> > right. You are looking at about double the number of parts in
> the Mustang.
> >
> > I am guessing that there is a much greater variation in empty
> weights> amongst mustangs, with fuel tank options between a
> single 25gal header
> > tank
> > to header + wet wings + center section tanks. The Airfoil
> section choosen
> > for the MII would appear to punish excess weight. This likely
> leads to the
> > wildly different landing performance numbers you hear for the
> MII. The Fat
> > Hershey bar wing of the RV is a more forgiving design at slow speed.
> >
> > If you look back on your flying, most people will have a soft
> spot for a
> > couple of planes. In most cases the planes which really stand
> out are not
> > the ones that impress so much in the glossy catalog, but the
> ones with the
> > best control balance and feel. For me the standouts are the
> the T-6
> > harvard,
> > RV-4, the Jodel D-11,  and the C-182 (in that order). I
> have flown the
> > Cirrus SR20 a few times and although it is a good cross
> country machine,
> > the
> > control feel (or lack of it due to the springs) frankly scares me.
> >
> > I think the control feel of the RV's is a larger part of Vans
> success.
> > Given
> > that there are now over 5000 finished ones, it shouldn't be
> too hard to
> > get
> > a flight in one to see if you like it.
> >
> > If building is for you is more a step towards flying rather
> than a
> > pleasurable 10 years in the garage, then you should be tending
> more
> > towards
> > a Vans quickbuild than a MII.
> >
> > The resale value of a well built RV is in a different league
> to all other
> > homebuilts.
> >
> > Mark W.
> >
>
> I have to agree with Mark W.
>
> I flew a RV9-A at the factory. What a blast!
>
> Then I went and rented a C-172 for a bi-annual. What a drag! The
> C-182 is
> much better; then again it ought to be.
>
> I used to own and fly a Mooney Super 21. That was a good
> airplane, and I
> miss it. But the RV9-A is a huge step better in the fun department.
>
> My primary reason for getting the RV9-A was I wanted something I could
> finish in a few years, and had lots of them flying. :) Then I
> went and got
> involved in a rotary engine. Forget the few years. :( But on the
> upside, I
> enjoy working in the shop, the ACRE newsletter and the
> interaction with
> others of a like mind. This is, after all, a hobby.
>
> If you want to fly ASAP and build a plane, get an RV. The RV
> with matched
> hole construction is basically an erector set. Cleco everything
> together and
> fasten, usually rivet but some bolts and screws. The few parts
> you must
> fabricate (yes there are some) will convince you that assembling
> is much
> faster than fabricating and assembling. For example, it took me
> the better
> part of an hour to fabricate one part (including a goof) and a
> few seconds
> to cleco it in place and rivet it. NOTICE: not all RVs have
> match hole
> construction. Only the RV7,8, 9, and 10s. The 4s and 6s still require
> jigging to hold the pieces in the right locations for drilling.
> So do the
> older 8s.
>
> Try your local EAA chapter for help; and maybe get a ride in an
> airplane(s)you are considering. Sun-N-Fun would be another place
> to look for rides.
>
> Doc Custer
> Retired Software Engineer and sometime Audiologist
>
>
>
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Thanks Doc

Fact:  Resale value is important in the Van aircraft compare to others.

The RV9a Vne is about 210mph.  What would be the Vne for the RV8?  Tracy
just posted this 13B/20B RV8 build, how fast does this would reach and
at what HP?

I'm waithing a reply from Mark on his opinion for the Mustang II
fastbuild versus VAN RV8 fastbuild.  This would in my opinion conclude
this thread.

Thanks to all and specially Paul for allowing this tread.

Marc Montreal Canada


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