> >
> > Hello Mark
> >
> > What is your opinion on a
> quickbuilt MII and quickbuilt Van8 for
> exemple
> >
> > Marc Montréal Canada
>
> <opinion>
> The Mustang II we bought has a centre
> section that was plans built (not
> finished assembled), most of the
> Fuselage and empenage parts are kit
> parts,
> and fast build wings (not started).
>
> >From what I can tell, the kits
> for the Mustang are farmed out to
> various
> retired guys, although I understand
> that Chris Tieman is constantly
> improving his kits. The quality of the
> wings looks good (we haven't
> started
> them yet) but it is not the erector set
> CNC matched hole quality of
> Vans. I
> would guess that a quick build kit for
> the Mustang would put you
> roughly a
> the same stage as a slow build kit from Vans.
>
> The building instructions for the Vans
> aircraft are excellent. Not
> just the
> plans, but the instructions are really
> clear and step by step. The
> instructions for the Mustang are much
> more general guidelines.
>
> The VNE of the RV-8 is 230mph, same as
> the MII. The fat Hershey bar Vans
> wing hits a bit of a drag wall, at
> about 200mph - you can force it to
> faster, but it take a fair bit of
> juice. Although the RV-8
> performance is
> spectacular, in top speed the Mustang
> wing has more potential. I
> personally
> wouldn't put much weight on top speed
> in terms of the purchase
> decision. If
> you end up with a plane you don't like
> the feel of, or that scares
> you when
> you need to land it, you won't fly it,
> so the whole building thing was a
> waste of time and money.
>
> Considering the investment in time and
> money (and patience and
> willingness
> to learn etc) required to build a
> plane, you would be nuts to decide
> on one
> design over another based on mine or
> anyone elses opinion. Go and
> find one
> of each and pay the owner whatever he
> wants to take you up for a
> good intro
> to type. It will be money well spent.
>
> Another consideration is the the
> folding wing option on the Mustang
> II, if
> you live in a place with sky high
> hangar rental.
>
> On the other hand I have never flown in
> a mustang, but just was
> offered a
> kit for a price I couldn't refuse :)
>
> I personally think the Mustang fuselage
> is pretty ugly.
> </opinion>
>
> Remeber, my opinion worth what you paid
> for it :)
>
> Mark Wrathall
> Having worked on both a RV-9 and my Mustang II, I agree with
> most of
> Mark's comments above. But let me be a bit more blunt: the
> RV-9 plans
> are a thing of beauty & absolutely unambiguous. The
> Mustang plans are -
> literally - exactly the same plans from 1960. They leave
>
*a lot* to be
> desired. The quality of pre-made parts from MAero is
> nothing like the
> quality from Vans. I now expect to be reworking (to one
> degreee or
> another) everything I get from them. Worse, you need to
> watch them like
> a hawk -- orders can and do go astray on a regular basis.
> I can't
> remember a single order that didn't require phone calls to get
> 'fixed'.
> In either case, I think my strategy would be to see if I could
> pick up a
> partially completed kit vs. new from factory. It would
> require homework
> to be able to tell good build from bad, but given that partial
> kits are
> sold below new costs it seems foolish to not get the benefit of
> someoneelse's free labor. You just need to be ready to
> redo what needs redone
> -- I spent about 250 hours undoing poor work from a prior
> builder before
> moving forward.
>
>
> Mark Supinski
>
>
>
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>
Boy am I glad I posted the question!!! The quality of the answers I've
received is simply fabulous.
Mustang has the appealing thing of having folding wings. I'd like to
have my plane in MY garage next to MY house. I live on the south shore
of Montreal right next of the St-Hubert airport. (It us to be the place
they park the Zeppeplin during the war, still could see the fondation)
And parking the plane away from my house. I would not like that. A few
years back I use to go-kart racing (Rotax Max 2 stroke 28.5hp) and the
souvenirs of a rented garage is not a good one.
Top speed is important to get there fast and economicaly. Canada is
very wide and the States as well I like travelling and touring is be the
prime reason to have a plane. Also my brother own's two traveling
agency. He has done a lot of flying in his life and has many more
places I'd like to visit (Old bro opening up his wallet to share the
expenses YES).
Because VAN RV8 is my choice with folding wings (could they make one
just for me please please :)))
Marc Montréal Canada
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