Paul and Don,
Here's the Turbochart spreadsheet.
If you have any questions about using it, or suggestions
to improve
it please let me know.
I'm in the middle of completely revamping it to add the
exhaust
side
so we can match turbines for turbocompounding. I also
want
to make
it easier to use.
Regards,
Gordon.
Thanks Gordon,
This spread sheet is very helpful. As I started plugging in
numbers for
my 20B, I wasn't sure what numbers to use for the following:
Volumetric Efficiency
Air-Fuel Ratio
Compressor Efficiency
I sent the spreadsheet back in this e-mail with my number saved
in it.
Can you look at it for me? All my little colored boxes seem to
fall
outside of the graph. The GT4202 Turbo Chart seems to be
closest since
the colored boxes are at least inside the graph. Am I doing it
right??
What does all this tell me?
Don
You will notice immediately that I failed to correct the engine
displacement for the 20B to the number Paul gave me in a prior e-mail.
It should be ~240 cubic inches. Unfortunately that made all my numbers
look even worse on the charts. I spreadsheet came with a volumetric
efficiency number of "1.2" already entered into the box. This sounded
odd, so I did the almighty internet search. I came up with this site
that indicates that the more appropriate number should be 0.94 (94%).
Does this sound correct?
Don
http://www.digi-go.biz/articles/volumetric-efficiency-of-a-rotary-engine-explained-by-miguel-p.html
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You should notify the guy that did that we are here to help :)
The 1.2 VE number is for a P-port. .94 VE is more like it for a 2nd gen
side port. The side port RX8 engine with the stock tuned manifold
is about 1.05 VE. A lot depends on the manifold so .94 VE might be high
for a 3 rotor. It is called Ram Charging or some such and was developed
years ago. Made famous by Dodge. Something for nothing. It is
a pipe resonant phenomena.
Please send us your sheet again when you get it fixed.
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.
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Paul,
Here's my updated spread sheet, but as you see, something is not working
out correctly. I entered a desired horsepower of 350 but the sheet
shows actual hp of 410. Its also showing 41.8 gph for fuel consumption,
which I hope is wrong!! The sheet actually shows fuel burn in 3
different locations and each is significantly different. Not sure why.
I still don't know what to enter for compressor efficency, but the sheet
already had 0.7 so I left that number alone. Hopefully I'll hear from
Gordon and he can help me work this out. What do you think?
Don
At 350 HP the fuel burn will be about 32 GPH at a BSFC of .55.
Fully leaned at 250 HP it will be 20 GPH at a BSFC of .47
Most guys with the 13B are cruising around 150 HP or 12 GPH.
The turbo compound version will be up to 20% less at
altitude.
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.
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