Subject: super pacer
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 5/10/2007, 9:53 AM
To: AARotary Engine



        A friend of a friend is interested in putting a 13B in a Super
   Pacer. A
        Super Pacer is a stretched Piper Pacer (longer fuse, bigger wing).

        Has anyone done one in the past?

        Paul, would you be willing to do a FWF 3D for him? If so, what
   info
        would you need?

        Doc Custer
        Retired Software Engineer and sometime Audiologist

        Sketch of the firewall hard point dimensions.
        Position of the thrust line. Any angular thrust offsets
        and length of the cowl from prop flange to firewall.
        --
        Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.


   I had considered doing this too..  I think it's a good fit.  I know of a
   couple of Pacer's with STC'd 180hp Lycomings (in an essentially stock
   airframe).  They make good performers.  With a stretched wing and fuse
   you end up with a nice utility airplane.  Pacer airframes are still
   pretty cheap too.

   Other airframes that are a good deal and a pretty good match:

   Cherokee 140
   Stinson 108x
   Cessna 175

   The Pacer is probably the easiest to accomplish this kind of thing on
   since they are tube and fabric and relatively easily modified.  Plus,
   several of them have already moved to Experimental (amateur built) -
   putting on Ford V6's.  I don't see that a Stinson would be any harder
   though.  And I think there are several things about Stinsons that
   are nicer.


   Matt-

   Check with your local FSDO on the rules.

   Paul Lamar

It's relatively easy to mod a tube-fabric airplane enough to qualify for
amateur built..  Putting what are essentially different wings on it, and
stretching the fuse, plus all of the replumbing/recovering work, plus
completely changing the type of engine makes it pretty easy to argue
that you built more than 51% of the plane yourself.  It's a big project
compared to building something like a Lancair Legacy kit, or even an
RV.  Any airplane is just a collection of parts.

Matt-

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