Subject: TES O-rings
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 7/10/2007, 6:04 AM
To: AARotary Engine


B,

You are obviously more experienced with rotaries than I am, but I  am also
self employed and take my work seriously. I have screwed up a few  times and
I have paid for the mistakes of others to protect my name in my  business. It
sucks but it is a cost of doing business and earning a reputation  that means
something. I clipped  a few quotes out of your last post  that  contradict
each other. The first three are at odds with the last five.

"I don't build junk"
My name is too important to me
I take my work very seriously.


Like I've already mentioned, why in the world should I?
Do you see any information on their website that demands any such  thing?
I'm not at fault for not building some wooden template.
why should I be held responsible?  That's silly.

I don't know who the manufacturer of these o-rings is and quite  frankly I
don't care."

The reason to form the seals on the board and to care who the  manufacturer
is, is to be able to make the first three claims. It is also why  you need to
measure accurately the ring diameter before installation. You  can't control
the quality of your product going out if you don't control it  going in.
Maybe I'm just lucky in that I found these two important tricks  before it
mattered to me. I'm sure you have lots of tricks that you employ  in putting
these together that aren't in the manual or printed on the parts  box, but
that doesn't mean you don't use them.


John Gibbons

For the new people here is where the O-ring installation is  discussed on the AREN web site.

http://www.rotaryeng.net/seals.html

http://www.rotaryeng.net/TEFLON_COATED_O_RINGS_IMG4.GIF

How to buy, measure and install Teflon encapsulated O-rings. html.

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

So, in other words, I'm at fault for assuming that I've purchased a
good product that requires no additional inspection or installation
voodoo especially seeing as how there's not a single shred of
instruction posted on their website about it, right?

With all due respect, baloney.  There's nothing contradictory
about what I wrote.  It has to do with the rightful placement
of responsibility.  While I'm responsible ultimately for what goes
out of my doors and into a running car (in the same form and
manner that you've written about having to pay for mistakes
which I have already several times), I can't possibly be held
responsible for having used an o-ring that is not only (sometimes)
difficult to install but also one that fails early on because of an
impossible-to-predict problem that should arise.  Come on!
This isn't about tricks; this is about using a product that's intended
for a specific application that gives no hint of any potential issues.

B



I have never seen directions on on a spark plug box on how to gap or
what to gap to . . .   No directions on a gallon of auto paint on how
to mix with accelerators or retarders . . . . Much in this world is
learned from experience due to the lack of directions. Personally, I
do not trust the packer at Aircraft Spruce to pack the correct parts
or the service man at Lowes to cut the correct bulk wire . . . .  I
check it as I am paying for it and I am using it . . . not them.
Sorry about your experience but sometimes you don't know what you
don't know and you need to ask the stupid questions to find out. Or,
check lists like this one for any information pro and con before
proceeding.
Randy


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