Responding to every bit of mis-information on the web is an

impossible >>>> task.

If anyone wants to know what I am using, just ask.
snips....
Tracy Crook
snips....
What is the section diameter of the inner TES O ring you are

using?

Paul Lamar
So much for: "Responding to every bit of mis-information on the web is an >>>>

impossible task.

If anyone wants to know what I am using, just ask."
I think Tracy is using .098" in section diameter which is too

large.

-- 
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

As I stated in my original message (conveniently snipped) "I am

using >>> the

same O-rings sold on my website" as opposed to your statement that

I >>> was

not (also snipped).
As to questions about the O-rings themselves, I don't have the time

or

willingness to disclose every specification, process, material, etc that goes into the products sold on my website (what company does?). If this bothers you, my advice is not to buy them.
As to Brian's complaints in earlier messages on the subject, I'll

just >>> say

that of course it is possible that he got a defective O-ring. If it happened, I am truly sorry and and we always offer a replacement

when >>> that

happens. Without going over my records in detail (time is a factor here, sorry if that sounds arrogant to Brian), it has happened about 4

times >>> out

of the approximately 1800 sets sold during the past several years.

The

problem is usually an O-ring that is slightly too short to easily

fit >>> into

the groove. Although Paul's solution of streaching the O-ring

slightly >>> does

work, we never expect the customer to do this unless they choose

to. >>> We

gladly replace the O-ring.
The obvious question that comes to mind about Brian's situation is: Why would you continue to use a product you know to be defective for 3 years? Again, sorry if that sounds arrogant.
Tracy Crook, RWS
That is what I thought. Your O-rings have too large a section

diameter.

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

Tracy,
You guys are just too much!
"Defective o-ring"? Are you guys just completely ignoring everything I'm saying or what? As I've stated already both in emails to Laura

as

well as what I've posted here and in NoPistons, just *one* of the

motors

I wrote about and posted pictures of had ALL FOUR o-rings splitting! That's excluding the (now) 7 other engines I know of that are

showing

symptoms due to the same damn problem!
LOOK AT THE PICTURES! THEY ALL SHOW THE SAME PROBLEM!
And this snide comment about my time frame -- First off, it wasn't a full 3 years that I used the o-ring kit. Secondly, when I became

suspicious

that the o-rings were the cause of the symptoms I was beginning to

see

in the summer of '06, I *discontinued use in Sept '06* as I've

already

written to Laura in an email (twice). Besides, even if I did

continue >> use,

what in the heck difference would that make? Nothing. Trying to take a poke at me and imply something, Tracy?
What is with you two? Could you two be possibly any more rude to me by still continuing to disregard everything I've written? Terrific

way >> to

handle your customer service!!!
"Defective o-ring". Good grief alive!!
B

Mr. B, Spark plugs don't come with directions Paint doesn't come with directions Gaskets don't come with directions nor exhaust pipes, mufflers, starters, etc. etc. You either know how to install/use or you learn how. You did not learn how to use/install the product. You made a mistake. I for one am tired of listening to you try to blame someone or everyone else for it. Randy

I think you are missing some other key points Randy. It is not just an installation issue. The question so far unanswered is; Were they

the

right section diameter?
Paul Lamar

Randy,
Have you read the post on NoPistons.com by chance? Not only will you see that I've had issue with several engines (all of them producing the
same failure mode), but you'll also see that I'm not the only person who's
having that same failure mode as well. I didn't make any mistake on this. Look at the data, sir.
Be sick of me all you want. You don't have to listen to me if you don't like, but I'm the one who has the convenience of being able to pull over.
B
B,
have you any pictures of the O-rings as the engine was taken apart? I
mentioned the possible problem caused by using  a sealant like
silicone, or even a non-hardening sealer like Ultra-Grey. (case sealant
for motorcycles) The O-ring groove is pretty small. any sealer could
cause hydraulic lock resulting in splitting. I am not advocating for
either side here just trying to cover all the bases.
Bill Jepson

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