Subject: RV-4
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 1/3/2008, 2:39 PM
To: AARotary Engine


    > > > > Hello Paul
    > > > >
    > > > > If you have a drawing of a RV-4 with a
    > > turbo
    > > > 13b stuffed inside the
    > > > > cowl,
    > > > > would you please be so kind as to
    > publish
    > > it
    > > > here for me? My primary
    > > > > interest is where to put the radiator -
    > I
    > > do
    > > > not believe in aircon
    > > > > cores -
    > > > > in such a tight cowl. I would also like
    > to
    > > > have the throttle body in
    > > > > the
    > > > > R/H (as seen from the prop end) cheek. I
    > > > have the engine, is between
    > > > > projects, and lust after a -4.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thank you and regards,
    > > > >
    > > > > Erik Snyman
    > > > > Messina
    > > > > South Africa.
    > > > >
    > > > > You will have a tough time doing that
    > with
    > > > the stock cowl.
    > > > > The turbo won't fit.
    > > > >
    > > > > Are you willing to change the cowl?
    > > > >
    > > > > IMHO you would be better off with a
    > > P-port.
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > If you are putting a 13b into an RV-4,
    > I'd
    > > > recommend a few
    > > > things- make
    > > > > the firewall 1" taller, move the prop
    > hub
    > > > out 5-6 inches to
    > > > 44"-45" in
    > > > > front of the firewall, and use a 16"
    > > > diameter spinner. Then you will
    > > > > have enough room to stuff the 13b in
    > > there.
    > > > I am abandoning the
    > > > > fiberglass cowl, and making an aluminum
    > > one.
    > > > I should have it done by
    > > > > the end of the month, I hope. This will
    > be
    > > > the forth (and last) cowl
    > > > > that I will have made for this airplane.
    > > > Brian Trubee
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Brian,
    > > >
    > > > Thank you for the advice. I take it you are
    > > > refering to the standard
    > > > cowl?
    > > >
    > > > Erik.
    > > >
    > > > Eric,
    > > > I am talking about making an entirely new cowl
    > > from
    > > > scratch using those
    > > > dimensions that I specified, and omitting the
    > cowl
    > > > cheeks. I'm putting
    > > > my radiator under the main spar like a P-51. I
    > > > figure that if I use the
    > > > clean sheet aproach, I won't be forced into
    > > > compromises.
    > > >
    > > > Brian Trubee
    > > >
    > > > How thick of a rad are you planning Brian?
    > > >
    > > > Paul Lamar
    > >
    > >
    > > It's two inches thick, the core is 13X22, mounted
    > > slanted to the airflow, not exactly like the p-51,
    > > which had a core that was around 10 inches thick.
    > > The
    > > stock Mazda oil cooler is right next to the rad.
    > >
    > > Brian Trubee
    > >
    > > OK I guess it is something like this one.
    > >
    > > I would use a splitter plate that far back about 2
    > > inches
    > > below the fuse. This will by pass the boundary
    > > layer.
    > > Side plates not shown.
    > >
    > > Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.
    >
    >
    > Yup, that's the configuration I'm using. I still
    > have
    > to build parts of the air scoop, but I am using a
    > splitter to capture the "clean" air. Since I will
    > have
    > access to an english wheel, I will be making the
    > scoop
    > out of aluminum.
    >
    >
    > I still have the fiberglass cowl, if anyone wants
    > it,
    > let me know. It would be a good basis for making a
    > mold, $30 plus shipping.
    > Brian Trubee
    >
    >
    > Wow that is super cheap Brian.
    > If nobody wants it now I'll buy it and keep it
    > around until somebody
    > needs it. It is a major undertaking to make a buck
    > for this kind
    > of cowl.
    >
    > Paul Lamar



   Ok Paul, if you want it, then I'll start working on
   getting it out to you. I have no idea how much it will
   cost to ship it, but the container will be about 3 x
   4x 3 feet. Let me know if you want it. I'm letting it
   go for cheap because I don't need it now, and I would
   want to do a little more work on shaping it.

   Brian Trubee

   Hang on for a few days and see if anybody pipes up.
   How many hours do you have in it so far?

   Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.


I have no idea how much time I have in this thing- a lot. I think I can
do a better job with aluminum, and I'm planning on polishing the
airplane anyway, so it's of no use to me now.

Brian




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